Following many PM's and forum posts of possible war an no war, and how we arent allowed to farm VS at all profit or not or he'll bash me, well tbh we are a fleet alliance. We farm profit where profits found, here are the CR's

The attacker has won the battle !
You receive 1 units of Metal, 1 units of Crystal and 0 units of Deuterium.
The attacker has lost a total of 0 units.
The defender has lost a total of 995.000 units.
A debris field containing 0 units of Metal and 0 units of Crystal has formed in orbit around the planet.

The attacker has won the battle !
You receive 2 units of Metal, 1 units of Crystal and 0 units of Deuterium.
The attacker has lost a total of 0 units.
The defender has lost a total of 1.037.500 units.
A debris field containing 4.500 units of Metal and 4.500 units of Crystal has formed in orbit around the planet.


The attacker has won the battle !
You receive 2 units of Metal, 1 units of Crystal and 0 units of Deuterium.
The attacker has lost a total of 0 units.
The defender has lost a total of 1.377.500 units.
A debris field containing 0 units of Metal and 0 units of Crystal has formed in orbit around the planet.

I post here the PM i sent Viper after i got told i had 15min to post on forums a NAP....

My alliance and I have never defence bashed, we have never targeted weaker members, we spy all and attack those with profit, be it IB or your farm alliance. Bash away and show the server how you fail to deal with things, il pay for my losses with the fleets of your alliance.

Part of the game is learning how to stay unprofitable, how to fleet save, lift res, farm others, if your alliance is that poor that you cant teach those things, disband and try again.
Enough said.

lol its obvious you moved your resources at the last second, which i expected.....but hey cant always catch you offline...

Viperfang 3million damage
HC 0...

Numbers say it all....you dont Defense bash my tail.....your first 2 wars against VS was your alliance attacking the LOWEST possible people and destroying their D....we surrendered both times BEFORE THE ATTACKS....

im over HC being bullys and declaring war on everyone on the server everyday.....you bit off more than you can chew this time...

For a brand new server i dont think any body could call us defence bashing for gettin 10-50K profit on each hit, seeing as server was a week old,

Also u said you didnt want a war so stop tallying up TD already.
I cant make it much clearer than is, your big headed, defence bashing, and achieving nothing while at it, except more attention to your alliance.
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Jackal>>>>> lol @ all this.....Viperfang seriously? All I can see from those two wars was PROFIT!!!!!!! Maybe you could learn something by following suit! All were hit for profit so less bullybull**** and start teaching your alliance how to play rather than giving it Johny "KEYBOARD WARRIOR" Rambo ...........you are dragging your alliance down with your lame *** excuses for failed attacks as your last set of c/r prove.....

LOL according to YOUR Message your going to defense bash VS (NOT ME) out of the game.....well seems to me your reverting to your OLD tactics of hitting the weakest players possible.....

THIS IS BETWEEN HC And ME......otherwise your targeting people that ARE NOT IN A WAR.....

VS surrendered already....

Have some honor and take on someone worthy of your attacks instead of dailyhitting lower players for a measly 50k profit that can be gotten on ANY INACTIVE in the galaxy....

That was 50K profit in the first week, now i hit for either raiding purposes or crashing fleet, ye so what VS surrendered you said to me you didnt want a war, so you also surrendered for yourself,
this has nothing to do with you apart from the fact we farm your alliance,
deal with it?
You want to get involved follow jackals advice, teach them how to play,
you want to defence bash?
Fck you il leave you no profit and pay my losses with res from your alliance,
I barely hit VS, you want to hit us for hitting them? we'll hit them harder,
again, deal with it.

You arent helping your alliance at all, your making it harder on them.
ATM HC isnt at war with anyone. if we were it would be on the war section.

I take it that Viperfingy is declaring a defence bash against HC then as I see no profit at all, the very thing he accused you lot of......having trolled through the c/r's of previous wars it is apparent that either VP doesn't check forums or is totally ignorant of facts! Bad form VP.......read up or put up.........

You're all being watched....muahahahaha

heh, just messing with ya'll, but i do find this whole rage battle foolish on Viper's part. I read what he stated about Vandal Squad being a peaceful alliance. That's all fine and well, but peace isn't really a reality in Massacre these days. ZE is designed for people to blow each other to bits, and Massacre is too new to have peace.

So basically, peaceful or not, an alliance should always be prepared for war...rather than instant surrender, fight and at least have some fun with it! It's a bleedin game after all.

I like the fact that Viper had the guts to declare personally against HC, but dude, keep it consistent man!

All things stated are just my opinion.

Interesting...
Will viper declare an official war?

heh i am keeping it consistent.....as alliances it is our jobs to protect our members correct?

I simply asked that their player jackal (40kish) points stop hitting one of our lowest members daily....i6t was a personal request between me and jackal....

2 minutes later Contruga and HC declared war on VS for my PERSONAL request to have jackal leave our guy alone....

My response was to surrender VS as i am only the acting leader.....contruga had a chance to end this by posting a NAP in forums so people could see them for what they are if they backed out of the NAP....

Overall this isnt a DEFENCE bashing war but i will attack HC, they are welcome to attack me.....doesnt matter if they move resources or not....i will not waste my duet and travel time without splashing down...

Desert reaper.....all i did was ask one guy in their alliance to leave one guy in mine alone....i will defend my alliance members the best i know how....everyone should be ready for a war at any time i understand that...
but when they hit an active player everyday for less than 50k resources i take it as defence bashing when i can get 40k off any player in the galaxy thats inactive and had 0 points.....dont let their misdirection comments throw you off on the forum....what they are posting and what they are privately sending are 2 different stories..

Ohh the plot thickens ....


and lets keep the personal flaming down a bit before it starts ...