Walshy wrote:Thanks for your opinion tho.

Oh, and that's supposed to make your trash of my beliefs okay? I believe RJ, I believe that he has a brother that's currently out of town for a job interview. It's not that far fetched! I'm not even remotely jealous of ~A~ by the way, I don't know how I would participate in an alliance where, on any random day, for any random reason, the leader would kick me out and bash me.

@MrCleanx, I'm sorry I called you a liar. Also, I'd like to thank you for protecting others by telling them to not attack.

Since you're sure this whole ACS defending deal went down, and you have a witness, then I guess it wasn't morally right to bait the players. But neither are many aspects of fleeting. RJ and his brother made a profit, that's that. Also, that rule that no fleet interaction can happen between two accounts with the same IP is BS. I don't see that anywhere either. Many have done it.
Going back to the "multi-accounting" aspect, you're just willing to believe anything to tear down the guy you don't like. I must say, you're losing the title you two have worked so hard to make, fearsome tyrants, and heading down the path of stupid traitors. If ANYTHING that remains behind the walls of ~A~ would help your case, then why not post it here? (besides the ban-able stuff) I'm sure the moderators would comply if you expressed your opinion in a fair manner.

And remember, everyone's entitled to their opinion. It's the way you express their opinion that either ruins it for everyone or gets them to agree with you.

One last point, I'd like you to know I'm not scared of either of you. I will make my point, and I will not be silenced by fear of your fleets. Attack me to shut me up, give me the satisfaction of knocking just that much out of your fleet by ninjaing you. And I would like my beliefs to remain my beliefs, not twisted and reposted by you.

Sincerely,
pupairo12

3 points to Pup for correctly citing Acton's Dictum.

As for the matter at hand, I've nothing to say about either side. Just make sure to keep the bashing and name calling to a manageable level on both parts.

Now this is an interesting read.. you did to another play what you complain I did to you.....lol You joined an alliance that you were at war with for so long... Looks like your name is mud in standard.

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I am so glad you pointed out the low profit on this hit it was not about profit, if it was you would have been acs attacked.
This gave me the last piece of the puzzle why you offered me your fleet a week ago. Your total loss 63 billion. My losses 33 billion. The DF was 56 billion. You would have collected the DF as you collected on this hit using the rubies you have always used. Facts none of your planets within 3 systems had any ships Fish's snapshot shows the df outside all your planets. you had less than 2 million on each planet. Yet in a space of 5mins you had built 51k RC collected part of the 9 billion metal still out side your planet. In lest than 10 mins you had over 100k RC.
Using the numbers above. by collecting the df, all 56 billion Your total loss would have been 7 billion. my losses would have still been 33 billion. Game to you. Deceit works both ways it seems. Shame I did not fall into your trap.

It is a shame that I can not say all the truths on here. Needless to say Kick would be able to clear some of these points up If he states He had planed his secret return as a Super n00b would be one of them. Shawn this is up to you.

what business is it of yours what kicks plans are or were? that has nothing to do with this hit. this hit was taking out the only other guy that could be of any challenge to you in the forseable future. your bringing up cheating or kick into it is a load of bs and everyone here knows it. this is the second time in what less than a month that you take it upon yourself to hit an alliance mate. you know what happens to people IRL that do that kind of thing? if its a gang, a cell, a group, or hell the mob....you know what they do to those people? im sure you can imagine. you might think you served yourself well with this, but dude you have made more enemies here than you can shake a stick at, and nobody is untouchable, not even the mighty gozar.

ill ask again, what happened to you quitting the game?

Gozar wrote: I am so glad you pointed out the low profit on this hit it was not about profit, if it was you would have been acs attacked.
This gave me the last piece of the puzzle why you offered me your fleet a week ago. Your total loss 63 billion. My losses 33 billion. The DF was 56 billion. You would have collected the DF as you collected on this hit using the rubies you have always used. Facts none of your planets within 3 systems had any ships Fish's snapshot shows the df outside all your planets. you had less than 2 million on each planet. Yet in a space of 5mins you had built 51k RC collected part of the 9 billion metal still out side your planet. In lest than 10 mins you had over 100k RC.
Using the numbers above. by collecting the df, all 56 billion Your total loss would have been 7 billion. my losses would have still been 33 billion. Game to you. Deceit works both ways it seems. Shame I did not fall into your trap.

It is a shame that I can not say all the truths on here. Needless to say Kick would be able to clear some of these points up If he states He had planed his secret return as a Super n00b would be one of them. Shawn this is up to you.

Funny part was that there was resources to build 100 recyclers on my home planet, build those, collected DF, build more collected more DF and kept going like that, only rubies that were used were for the merchant. and its only 70k not over 100k like you claim.

Not sure what "trap" you are talking about as I never had a "trap" set up. and low profit? There isn't a low profit, it's negative profit.

Like I told Dene, get you facts straight before you attempt to post slander. Thanks

Walshy wrote:

crushbone wrote:whatever the reason is, waiting till someone offline then kick him and take losses to crash his fleet is the LOWEST you can sink.

Yes because cheating is acceptable right?

fishy im sorry but dont you send Millions of resources to new players?

i like you and rob...but this is ridicoulous if your going to post something make sure your not hypocritical about it....

joshanddrew wrote:

Walshy wrote:

crushbone wrote:whatever the reason is, waiting till someone offline then kick him and take losses to crash his fleet is the LOWEST you can sink.

Yes because cheating is acceptable right?

fishy im sorry but dont you send Millions of resources to new players?

i like you and rob...but this is ridicoulous if your going to post something make sure your not hypocritical about it....

Hey buddy, i do give new players res to encourage them to stay in zorg and build early, but i do it within the confines of the rules. Im sure i do anyway. Im not quite sure what you mean by what you said there.

Im not gioing to answer anymore in here but happy to on ingame pms or we could all go round in circles.

Rjsturgill wrote:

Gozar wrote:
Like I told Dene, get you facts straight before you attempt to post slander. Thanks

If thats what you like to call it Rob.

And Ball Sac, We dont really care what people think outside the alliance. Some will remain friends and those that arnt well again they have decided to make there own decisions and thats there choices. Its no bother to us either way.

well where are they? id be very interested in the other 5 members of your alliance opinion on this matter. of course, they would be afraid to be honest about it in fear of the same low down crap happening to them.

so far we have heard from just you 2 honorable guys.

put whatever spin or ribbon on it you like but this is the SECOND time he did this. first HE left the alliance to take out a mate, and now he kicks a member without a word and takes him out. that is the lowest of the low that i have seen around here. this really is a dispicable thing that he did here, and an incredibly poor example being set by one of the gods of ZE.

and i will ask for the THIRD TIME, i thought he was quitting?

also one last thing and then im washing my hands of this BS.

you talk about team this and team that. was there a vote in your alliance on this drastic action? did all members have their say and voice their opinions? I think not. so on one hand rj and kicks "plan" was a strong reason for this happening, as they didnt include the group, yet here you 2 go and pull this without warning or any kind of indication of it. where is the challenge or sportsmanship in that?