Who also brings kids into this world only for them to be killed a few months later after excruciating pain? Who also creates people knowing absolutely everything about them including weather or not they will believe in him or not only to throw them in hell when they die? Who is against free thinking? Who causes pain for most and happiness for few? Who's pan is to, in a few more years, is to kick all of the "Non believers"in eternal fire and all of the believers into eternal bliss for believing in him? Who rewards people for doing nothing with there lives and punishes those who survive for themselves?

raiders wrote:" thatguyeric wrote"


I don't want to insult anyone, so please do not take offence to this, but I am really a believer of all this religious stuff. Are you saying that the theory of evolution is false? You don't think there is sufficient proof? Again, if this is a touchy subject for anyone, sorry.



That is okay. we all have different beliefs. I respect that. But if evoloutin is real who put fish in the ocean?? God did... so it comes back down to God. It is okay, it is a free country.

I do not know how to get that quote thing.. so it is a little messed up

Glad to hear that you are accepting . I am too, but I just want to see your approach on this. How can you believe something with no proof (god), when facts present themselves to you suggesting that there is indeed evolution? I have heard of things like "our god is a jealous god". If this is true than 1-Why is God, the embodyment of perfection, tainted by such a trait, and 2- why doesn't he reveal his existance? Questions very similar to these have been asked for centuries to strong believers, and there aren't answers provided, whereas scientific breakthroughs have become a weekly occurence. I could go on and on about why I find it hard to believe in this, but that would just annoy people. I'm not saying that I don't believe that something bigger is going on, but I don't see how people have these specific ideas, and I certainly cannot say that the theory of evolution is false.

P.S.- at the top right hand corner of the post you wish to quote, there is a button that says "quote"

P.P.S.-Ame, I agree with you, but maybe that was a little harsh?

OneWingedAngel.. I do not know what you mean by a "god" type entity what is an entity?? Do you mind telling me? Sorry bout that. But again, how did fish get there God put them there. OneWingedAngel I am very sorry if I offend you by my topic I am sorry.

i love talking about philosophy and ideas this topic getting interesting

If God is perfect, then how can he have knowledge of good and evil, the thing that made Adam and Eve tainted, and still remain perfect?

God does everything according to his will. I am so sorry if what I said was harsh. I am not trying to do anything. If anyone finds anything offending, I am sorry.

raiders wrote:OneWingedAngel.. I do not know what you mean by a "god" type entity what is an entity?? Do you mind telling me? Sorry bout that. But again, how did fish get there God put them there. OneWingedAngel I am very sorry if I offend you by my topic I am sorry.

i never get offended at anything and never will dont worry about that
when i say god type entity i mean a supreme being with intelligence greater than ours etc

the fish evolved like we evolved and every lifeform on the planet evolved
genesis says in the beginning there was nothing god created heaven earth man animals etc
to me this is evolution being explained by someone who does not understand science yet but is very intelligent for their time

Sorry I misunderstood OneWingedAngel.

It is hard to say what I really think without it being rude. May I say what I want to say, even if it insults religion? This does not change how I feel about the people who express these beliefs. I have very extreme views towards religion, and I don't want to offend anyone, so just say the word raiders, and I will not post a thing.

Yes, it is harsh, but is is how I view it. When you bow down to God, you put faith in him and, even thought you still try, you can't do anything for yourself. At the end of the day, the drive isn't there because you know when you die, everything stays behind and you go onto a better place. I prefer to rely on myself. When I accomplish something, I don't have to credit an all power ful force for helping me do it, something a Christian or similar faith can not do because God does everything for them.