Khan, I dont believe Ive openly insulted V. Nor, as I said, had you read the last post, that I was calling V bullies. I was using a comparitive metaphor. It is true you dont hit a better fleet for profit, however V is fighting a war. In a war you do your utmost best to destroy the enemy forces that are capable of damaging you the most. V is not doing that and continuing their same old raids. This is all my point was.
At LoW, your point is well made, it is one that I had not considered in quite that much magnitude (All of V at once
) but not one Id missed. My point was simply that certain V players were talking long and loud about how weak we were and how great they were, and that the sole reason they can realistically say this is because we cannot yet mass our forces. Imagine if ACS attack was out when this war began. As stated earlier in this thread, the remaining AZG fleets may not be able to take V. Having not read many of the CRs, I hadnt realised how badly off we were, although, as I have said, that our stronger players remain immune to V. However, our fleet points were significantly higher than that of V. I honestly think had ACS attack been in operation, not only would this war be very different (AZG fighting back more for one) but that AZG would also be winning.
On the fleetsaving bit, Def and Mal both launched a big campaign to teach people to FS properly (Just after I lost mine, alas) and people were beginning to FS efficiently, and undetectably. The war broke out before it was a well reinforced habit for many, and in that way only, is this war responsible for the now sterling efforts of AZG players to fleetsave, by suddenly providing extra encouragement to clean up our acts on this.
Crippler, AZG is one of the alliances that least needs to be warned about V. Its kind of hard to avoid overestimating a greatly more powerful foe when said foe is currently trying to kick your head in. We have no illusions that as things stand at the moment that we can resoundingly defeat V without a great deal of luck (Such as the admin suddenly donating us 100 RIPs each...for every planet...with a multiplier bonus for amount of total raids...and etc.) Or even deal a crippling blow to a single player. We continually tell V not to underestimate us because of the deluge of trash talk they lay our way. Your concerns are noted, by myself at least.
Khan, I am not a thoroughly diplomatic speaker, and am most definitely NOT eloquent. If it is seen as a problem for me to voice my opinion, by AZG, I will quietly bow out after an apology. So far however, there have been no complaints. It is my thought certain V members needed to be told to cool off. Its a commonly held opinion. Maybe this did it, maybe it didnt. Maybe Def could do it better. But this is my opinion, my words, etc. It is representative of myself. I have endeavoured not to make global sweeping statements. Consider if you will the statements I have made compared to certain V posts. Contrast. Who has presented a higher ground? Personally i think myself, but Ill leave public opinion to decide, ignoring V and AZG commentry on the matter to avoid a biase. But that is not the topic at hand.
On a final note, this is primarily a thread for the V-AZG war. If you(general) are not directly involved, perhaps you shouldnt post, or post on topic rather than critiquing other posters.
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