Why would use bc against rips and why do cruisers and battle ship beef up but not battlecruisers I am not asking for my benefit but for everyone and the game

Nautilus<>Zero wrote: Do you really think lgs are being nerfed?????????
The direct counters to lunnies (dessies, lf) will do more damage to lunnies (Unlike before where lunnies could steam roll everything) but the damage increase isn't a huge amount, but enough to make dessies viable again.

Okay, I have to object to this. When you say lunars could steamroll everything with the old engine, that is simply not true! The rapid fire dessies, BCs, and LFs already had against lunars already made certain fleet comps difficult to take out... Certainly, pound for pound, BCs and dessies already rip through lunars! I have been confronted with situations where a particular fleet comp heavy on BCs or dessies (but still containing RIPs, of course, making LGs the only viable option...) made it difficult for me to mitigate my losses, despite the fact that the the fleet I was targeting was significantly smaller than my own.

The real steamrollers always have been RIPs... I am glad to see that it looks as if lunars are strengthened against RIPs with the changes to the new engine, but my worries about many fleets being more difficult for medium sized fleeters to take out still stand... I'm trying to look at this holistically. Of course I have a bias in that I AM one of those medium sized fleeters who has amassed a majority lunar fleet, and these changes will affect my game play and will make hunting more difficult for me in many instances. But I feel that the perspective I am coming from is reasonable and that my concerns are real. Increasing the effects of rapid fire from dessies and BCs against Lunars (ships that were already powerful against lunars) certainly won't destroy the game... but I am not convinced it will be good for it either...

On a side note, I do agree with Dire that BCs do not need a buff.... they already perform extremely well against all ships except RIPs. Giving cruisers a little something extra could be a good thing... they are not really viable at all right now.

Let us comprises here has I do agree with u both how about cruisers get rf against bombers then we have counter , bomber in the engine are good ship now so both bombers and cruisers will good to addition to have in our fleet

Great idea micky!!
cruisers still have very week shields for their cost.
A boost to their shields would be welcome .
+9001

How's this sound for cruisers weapons still 400 shield increase to 100 but cost 2500 more crystal to build armor still 3250 and has rf against light fighters 6 eps 5 sats 5 rl10 and bombers 4

Armour is determined by resource cost,
That would mean an increase to armour as well

No armour increase cruisers armour is 3,250

Cruiser armour is=32500
this is derived from the metal and crystal required to build, 25000+7500=32500
to increase the build cost by 2500 crystal we'd end up at 25000+10000=35000 armour
All ships armour is calculated this way

Lol sorry I just have values they are now u right armor would go up if the cost of build goes up I didt add it up and used current value it does not matter as long as it get rf

I've ran some sims using both engines against a real fleet...I only used LGs to attack..but using 70-80-and 90k LGs...the new engine averaged a 10k greater loss..