Whilst I agree with nearly everything that Gozar says, I disagree with "no moon should be unpoppable" scenario.

Changing the game for the sake of it, bad idea. But the moons, I doubt the original intention was to have all moons unpoppable. The whole point of Ruby moons, I think, was to make them safe from being destroyed. The original game designers would never have envisioned a player having a fleet of so many RIPs that could actually take out a ruby moon.

Things change and the game evolves, a matter of time passes, these things happen. So, although not changing the game drastically, it would be better perhaps to tweak the game so that the original concept was kept, albeit not to everyone's agreement.

The long term players in any server are the bread and butter of Zorg. As a business, to keep your customer base happy, ideas need to be listened to, things addressed. But, these players have played for so long. They will, to a greater extent, still play. Things need to be changed to suit new players, agreed. But not to the detriment of the players who have kept the game going since its inception.

I agree with gozar the only thing that needs changing is a tutorial for new players this game need players to work fully this is a war game u ill lose and win at times. I believe all moons should be able to be poped otherwise why have the rips we have the tech and the ships that is needed u has a player have to find ways of doing the job piting ur wits against other's

And going blue and not adding to this discussion doesn't help we has player need pressure zorg in to making the changes

i think the biggest problem is that most everybody is trying to figure out how to be #1. While it is possible to change the current #1 slot from Gozar to (insert name), will you put the effort into what it takes? I, myself, have often wondered about being #1 but not in the same context as most. I wonder how many ppl will start to hate me, hunt me, start rumors about me, lie about me, try to be my friend for protection, "retire their fleet" into mine, want my account, not have to "worry" about my fleet, hit whomever I want (including guildies that upset me).

There is really not too much to be done with this game except to enjoy it and challenge yourself. War is way more than ATTACK/DEFEND. This game should be played with a broader perspective than just being #1 or trying to change the game to attack who is thru coding. The question we should be asking ourselves is.. given an even playing ground, meaning same exact accounts, would I be as good as the top players (not by rank). For me, the answer is simple. If i put in the amount of effort, then yes. If I am lax in my play, then no. Can I, within the current system of play, find ways that maybe others don't do to counter and be victorious? Absolutely, beyond a shadow of a doubt, not only can I do this, but it is what I base my game play on. Can I really mess up the comfort zone of "GREAT" players by doing things they maybe have rarely/never seen before? Oh, that is what I live for in this game. To be the first to do something nobody else has done before.

With my rambling out of the way, personally I have had some ideas to change the game for better front of game experience. I know there have been some other really damn good game play ideas, but very limited response. I love the "alien tech/fuel" ideas to enhance expedition play. That or just take that current load of crap out of the game entirely. Its broken and useless (to a point) as it is now.

I also agree about the "tutorial" section and, once again, think it should be an interactive beginning. Don't just give the rubies and a "how to" button. make them walk thru every aspect and "earn" the rubies. Zorg, ATTACK THE NEW PLAYERS! let them see what an attack is, how it affects their play and how to come out if it on the better side. Make them do an expedition run and get something in return. Maybe attack them and they lose 1 of their ships in a tie battle, but while they are doing their first expedition, they also find that ship and it is replaced so they can feel the relief of rebuilding. These ideas in no way affect/hinder/give bonus to any level player. It only expands their thought process of the game.

All nub accounts should be placed into a UNIVERSAL alliance and, unless it is a recommend through friend account, it should stay in this alliance until 50k pts. It will introduce new players to each other, ultimately teach the game by peer accomplishments/mistakes, gain a cohesiveness thruout the game for its game play, not your position on the rankings.

I honestly can't disagree with a single thing you said Spanks. I especially like the mock attack one in the tutorial system.

The whole point is to be number one. AS a number two, I'm not happy, lol. But there is little I can do apart from plugging away.

Game tutorials are a great idea. It has been suggested before that there is a nursery server. To progress, you have to complete task, learn and then move on. It was also suggested that this be a personal choice. If you wanted to step straight in to a server, it's your choice. The nursery server, you would complete the tutorial task then graduate upwards to a server of choice. So, that means, all servers having their differences, all servers would have to be the same game up to a certain point. ie. you might only be allowed to have your original world or at least only one colony? Anything past a certain playing point the servers go in diverse directions. To graduate as the same player you can't go too far.

But, once you have the basics of the game play, your Zorg knowledge would be the same in any of the universes.

Is this too much in game construction to possibly put this in to motion?

the "whole point of being #1" is like the "perfection" theory....its only attainable by 1, so if that is the case, why would anybody ever join a new game? You will never be #1.So if that is the point for you, and you know its an impossible goal, why play? That mindset is why ppl quit. Any minor setback and hang it up.

If all people thought like that they'd all quit. They don't! Strive to be number one, whether it's attainable or not is not the problem. You have to strive for it. It seems to be a problem with modern thinking. If it isn't easy, give up? That's the mindset.

Go for it, give it your all and try to have fun doing it. Suffer setbacks and let it make you stronger. There seems to be a lot of weak willed people around. When I started the game I was a newb just like everyone else. There are one or two of the players who were strong when I started but for the most part they have either bored of the game or other players have got stronger, overtaken them and paid them back with attacks. Rubies help but they are not the be all and end all. I have managed for the most part without them. I suffered setbacks. I didn't give up.

Perhaps it's a generational thing or perhaps things different people do in their real lives that shapes their thinking. I am not the oldest player in the game but the player base seems to be made up of, primarily younger players than I.

There needs to be a thing where players should look at themselves and question their hunger. Or do they all want a quick fix to become the best?

Just playing Devil's advocate.

Spankie always had good ideas (good to see you back Spankie

From all the replies here, I understand that:

The first major issue is that most people think that the newcomers need help - they need tutorials, guilds, war (love in short).

The second major issue is ability to avoid fleet crashes with moons being the hot topic as a strong moon seems to be the best way to avoid a coordinated attack.

For the first major issue, we will act ASAP.
For the second major issue, we need a recipe.

next one is that you add space quest ,rewards for being active everyday,new ship if you buy ruby
Ruby extractor ship for moons send him to moon for chanse to get rubys
adding races to game will make people make factions aliens vs humans and so on could keep players playing for hours
each race different ships ,tech,buildings,
reward big guys for not bully little ones too much

my advice is only zorg spend more for now on one server to make him active again then move to next one
also make like this
Fight records of ally member
Total fights 84
Won 64 (76.19%)
Lost 16 (19.05%)
Drawn 4 (4.76%)
Units Killed 185.451.000
Units Lost 1.761.704.000
Recycled Metal 673.041.150
Recycled Crystal
to show below players

new options in alliance Alliance Diplomacy
Wing
- No pact exists -
Alliance
- No pact exists -
Trade Alliance
- No pact exists -
Non aggression pact
- No pact exists -
War
- No pact exists -
Incoming requests
- No request available -
Outgoing requests
- No request available -

adding Officers to game

-5% Of the construction time of spacecraft. Max Level 10
+5% to production of resources. Max Level 20
+5% Attack, Shielding and Armor. Max Level 20
+5% Energy . Max Level 10
-10% Of research time. Max Level 3

New building
University-It reduces research time 8% per level

New techs:
-Improved Metal Production
Increases the production of the Metal mine by 2%
-Improved Crystal Production
Increases the production of the Crystal mine by 2%
-Improved Deuterium Production
Increases the production of the Deuterium mine by 2%

hmm and one more that needs to be done as am started playing online FPS MMo i liked one thing there Ultimate alliance
Ultimate alliance
let me explain this little
i named it random
first
we have now alliances and if somone ally we write on front page right
as i posted above you can use that or this
allow each alliance or alliance member to create own ship
by creating some script which we go to yours site and make random ship
we choise
parts
weapons
damage
type of ship transport or warship
choise color
price
capacity
speed
or you can make people simple write own idea for ships on forums

allowing that you will add ability that each alliance become different then others
also adding
option that alliance join to others alliance
to create big allaince that can share resurses ,trade,or hmm i have idea if you like it implant
to let these allaince fight for spot in space
let say adding galaxy 10 inextreme or any server you have
regualr allaince cant access them you need to have big allaince of allaince to access them

option that each allaince need to donate some resurses to create let say super planets on which the can build they special ships
,defenses ,buildings for trading to others big alliances

protect there planets by sending ships to that planet
if not protected destroy planet and you need to start over
also enable that Deadstar can pop them which could make intense

also add option that you need to defend some planets for some time by random timer
reward should be random

also exporation yours game make ships destroy for that and get nothing worth
make it worth
however add negative impact for that player if pickup wrong resurses
better then destroyed ships
example
negative
show ships on ranking for 24 h lifted or not
slow ships for 24 h
resurses not gow up on planets
provoke enemy empire random attack on some of yours planet
depends od yours stars
yup add star rating for this
1 star less ship
5 star heavy fleet
random on one of yours planet
attack last for 24 h
random decisions on planets
each star improves if you pick negative let name it negative ruby
less cargo ship capacity on all ships for 24 h
and so on

here some positive
increase resurses production on all planets for 2,4,8,16,32,50%
energy roduction on all planets for 2,4,8,16,32,50%
Ruby 1,3,5
dont tell me that you dont need this because you lose money
you need this to keep people interested in tech
random ship 1,3,5
random tech 1,3,5 level
and so on lot sideas you can add here

next one is for ruby
you need money right here you can help you get it
daily reward
add resurses bonus
add 1 random ship
add option that reduce price of ruby by 25%,50%70%
for 3 days
why this its simpe because some poeple dont have too much money
by leting price go down even more
people could buy ruby with real money
imagine buying 35 Zorg Rubies for 0.50 or 100 Zorg Rubies for 1 euro

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