I may not play actively in X anymore but I see Gozar and Sprog constantly wanting to go to war with other alliances and then complaining about it. You have a combined fleet of 120m+, why would anyone even bother to waste time losing defenses and fleet with you. I've come to a proposal that will most likely get shut down by Azgd anyways. Instead of trying to "test" other alliances, try to test your own. All Azgd does is hide behind gozars a** anyways. So if you want a good war Gozar, ditch Azgd and fight 'em. And if you don't want to, then stop complaining, please. Cause if your own alliance denies the war because you have a huge fleet you now know how the other alliances feel. Your alliance would be doing the same exact thing as the others.

JorgeFlores1 wrote:I may not play actively in X anymore but I see Gozar and Sprog constantly wanting to go to war with other alliances and then complaining about it. You have a combined fleet of 120m+, why would anyone even bother to waste time losing defenses and fleet with you. I've come to a proposal that will most likely get shut down by Azgd anyways. Instead of trying to "test" other alliances, try to test your own. All Azgd does is hide behind gozars a** anyways. So if you want a good war Gozar, ditch Azgd and fight 'em. And if you don't want to, then stop complaining, please. Cause if your own alliance denies the war because you have a huge fleet you now know how the other alliances feel. Your alliance would be doing the same exact thing as the others.

Awww bless.......u all keep saying we hide behind Gozar....let me tell u this...... I was hunted by Gozar and Torgard (let alone Fishpond,Ikyan, PK etc) way before Gozar and Torgard joined AZG.... I lost moons...I got multiple probes every day........did I moan to them? Did I boo like a baby that they were bullies? Did I say it was unfair they had such huge fleets chasing a player just out of protection? Like **** I did!!! I got on with the game and built up...I stayed active...I evaded where I could.....got real close to getting crashed a few times aswell.....but I didn't!!! I was respectful of my opponents and I carried on....and there it is....respect!!!! All the great players made me a better player....AZG went to war with ~A~ when Gozar was leader...we didn't hide...we tried!!!! Gozar had a huge fleet then as he does now...... Torgard had a huge fleet aswell.... was that unfair? No....we got on with it.....All you moaners need to man up and play the game...and ftr it is a war game....Deal with it

Btw...constantly wanting to go to war????? Show me all the war declarations this year or admit you are talking (how do I put this) b*ll*cks

Keep in mind Sproggy, gozars fleet was no where near the size it was back then so don't start exaggerating. Just since I JOINED he has grown 20m+ fleet and it's almost been 2 years since that. So how many fleet points did he have when you went to war with him? He probably had half the points he does now. Azgd has declared war on silent killers or w.e they're called now twice for "personal" reasons apparently. If I know Gozar well all he wants to do during a war is bash defense. He's done it to me before and I didn't really care then nor do I now. But you guys aren't worth anyone's time for a war. What're they supposed to do? Let you demolish them? I'm pretty sure they still intend on surviving in the game as I'm sure you're probably making the game hard enough on people for stupid reasons.

JorgeFlores1 wrote:Keep in mind Sproggy, gozars fleet was no where near the size it was back then so don't start exaggerating. Just since I JOINED he has grown 20m+ fleet and it's almost been 2 years since that. So how many fleet points did he have when you went to war with him? He probably had half the points he does now. Azgd has declared war on silent killers or w.e they're called now twice for "personal" reasons apparently. If I know Gozar well all he wants to do during a war is bash defense. He's done it to me before and I didn't really care then nor do I now. But you guys aren't worth anyone's time for a war. What're they supposed to do? Let you demolish them? I'm pretty sure they still intend on surviving in the game as I'm sure you're probably making the game hard enough on people for stupid reasons.

Ok Jorggy...let's get facts right...if Gozar only had half his fleet when I started so what....50 million against my 100k when I exited protection???? Your point is what exactly??? As for actually declaring war...so what...it's a war game remember......btw u said we constantly declare war...proof please or admit you are talking b*ll*cks as I mentioned earlier lol .

The difference in fleet is tremendous now, 30k rips, he probably only had some 8-13k back then but now he has probably tripled that and same goes for lgs. Your 100k fleet could survive back then, but a 100k fleet cannot survive anymore due to his ability to pop ruby moons now. WHY would someone risk a war with a combined fleet of 120-140m fleet? They know they'd get obliterated and they're not stupid obviously, unlike you guys. You declare like they're going to accept when you already know they won't. "let's declare was so they embarass themselves". But in all reality you're the only idiots picking on the smaller alliances. What are they? Some 15m points in total? Your alliance is 10x that. Either face someone that matches you in strength or sit down. As for the constantly declaring war, I meant constantly declaring war on whoisit. This might only be your second time doing it but knowing how paranoid you and Gozar are, there should be more in the near future.

When AZG went to war with ~A~ I recall only being 3rd top alliance........and when u say Gozar "only had some 8-13k" RIPS back then surely u are taking the p***???? Against my small fleet at the time???? 100k+ fleet can survive that many RIPS??? If you are correct then WTF is the problem???? We took on ~A~ (check forum posts b4 talking ****) and we eventually lost.....predictable yes....fun...absolutely...So no Jorggy I don't need to "sit down"...and no, twice declaring war is not "constantly" lol..........if u want a battle of wits next time at least make sure you are armed...

Sprog wrote:When AZG went to war with ~A~ I recall only being 3rd top alliance........and when u say Gozar "only had some 8-13k" RIPS back then surely u are taking the p***???? Against my small fleet at the time???? 100k+ fleet can survive that many RIPS??? If you are correct then WTF is the problem???? We took on ~A~ (check forum posts b4 talking ****) and we eventually lost.....predictable yes....fun...absolutely...So no Jorggy I don't need to "sit down"...and no, twice declaring war is not "constantly" lol..........if u want a battle of wits next time at least make sure you are armed...

Well no one has exactly accused Jorge of having a clue.

Your argument about RIPs is invalid... if you get hit with RIPs... you're offline.

There are over 15 safe FS moons in the game and many more if you negotiate with an active player to use their moon. Let's not mention the at least 2 9.999 perfect moons out there.

Just get over the fact you'll never be #1 and enjoy the game... that's all you have to do.

Instead you whine and gripe like a child about how unfair this is and that is.

lmao so we still got players who moan about a war i can understand that not many will be able to go up against the likes of gozar and sprog due to there fleet size but at the end of the day this is a war game and wars will be declared, if the other alliance gives up then they give up dont start moaning about it on the forums its just sad this game is slowly going down hill not many active players left and the ones that are left moan and cry about being attacked if u cant handle the heat dont play this game, im sure there is a game on facebook u could play, like farmville or summin

JorgeFlores1 wrote:I may not play actively in X anymore but I see Gozar and Sprog constantly wanting to go to war with other alliances and then complaining about it. You have a combined fleet of 120m+, why would anyone even bother to waste time losing defenses and fleet with you. I've come to a proposal that will most likely get shut down by Azgd anyways. Instead of trying to "test" other alliances, try to test your own. All Azgd does is hide behind gozars a** anyways. So if you want a good war Gozar, ditch Azgd and fight 'em. And if you don't want to, then stop complaining, please. Cause if your own alliance denies the war because you have a huge fleet you now know how the other alliances feel. Your alliance would be doing the same exact thing as the others.

I was tempted just to ignore your ignorant post... you don't seem to have the concept of this game or of friendships..

1....this is a war game... size of fleet is not the be all of combat..as history has proven time and time again.

2... You may attack or pick fights with your friends in RL.. as you seem to think I should quit AZGD and do so on my friends here.

In reality if one country decides to invade another or declare war.. the invaded countries options are to fight or surrender..Surrender means occupation and that country is then under the control of the invader... here it's no go away.. no repercussions, resulting in another part of this game to be pointless.

I can understand why people say no to war if it just means cancelling the bashing rule. PPl are right to say it is a war game, but don't forget the "game" bit.

I am not an expert of how wars work in ZE, but perhaps the alliance leader who is being declared on (in this example Silent Killers/LSD) should decide what the terms are. If it is just TD then it is clearly so easy for the stronger fleeter to just d-bash that it is not much of a competition. But if it is based just on ships destroyed then it could be won by either side.

Otherwise I agree with Gozar that it makes it a pointless aspect of the game if the opponent can just say "no thanks, not today" lol...