Was surprised to see Rj's fleet down early.. so probed and found.. sent roamer tried a few ms but ended up having to ruby up a moon...had no idea when he would be online.. Deut and ships arrived mins later.. JG etc built... launched RC and waited...just encase Rob lifted and ninja'd fodder...But luck was in.. the result is below

2nd biggest crash in ZE history.. No tricks nothing underhanded, no tips or PM's just an old fashioned spy and fly..

The attacker has won the battle !
You receive 72.847.446 units of Metal, 35.157.331 units of Crystal and 1.392.683.473 units of Deuterium.
The attacker has lost a total of 18.748.100.000 units.
The defender has lost a total of 67.668.018.800 units.
A debris field containing 28.047.926.580 units of Metal and 23.801.744.700 units of Crystal has formed in orbit around the planet.
The probability of creating a moon is : 19 %

follow ups..and what a deut haul...

Attacker Loss: 0 Defender Loss:0
winnings Metal:36.423.723 Crystal:17.578.665 Deuterium:1.946.072.611
Debris Metal:0 Crystal:0

Attacker Loss: 0 Defender Loss:0
winnings Metal:18.211.862 Crystal:8.789.333 Deuterium:1.073.073.805
Debris Metal:0 Crystal:0

Attacker Loss: 0 Defender Loss:0
winnings Metal:9.105.931 Crystal:4.394.666 Deuterium:786.574.403
Debris Metal:0 Crystal:0


Attacker Loss: 0 Defender Loss:0
winnings Metal:4.552.965 Crystal:2.197.333 Deuterium:546.202.132
Debris Metal:0 Crystal:0


All Df collected.. even had to build a few more RC..

Will say a huge glotr.. sorry to see you go Blue..

This is best play. RJ made a mistake in leaving the fleet down, and Mark took advantage of the mistake. I am a bit surprised as the very previous day several of us had been actively scanning his positions to get an idea of where his fleet was located. I know it takes a massive fleet to make this possible, but this hit is basically no different from a much smaller hit. The process is the same and is a result of just good, simple, solid, gameplay.

Congratulations, Mark. Well deserved accolades.

Very sweet hit and love that deut.

glotr RJ

I guess it was a surprise....not. Anyone that knows Rob knows he doesn't screw up like that. Someone hacked in to his acct. and recalled his fleet. They even messaged me to see how long I'd be on.
It never ceases to amaze me why some aholes can't win without cheating. If Zorg doesn't reverse this then fair play is out of the question. I think my days on this server are numbered. Too bad I paid for rubies at Christmas. What a sham!!

I do realize that RJ is a VERY experienced player and can read a fleetsave time just as well as, and better than, most players. I think that is why many of us were surprised at the mistake. IF his account was compromised then there should be some proof from Zorg. I know that Zorg can track IP address logins, however there would have to be a significant level of proof of an account compromise before any reversal or remuneration.

I won't say anymore on the topic. Let's let the game admins work it out.

ZORTON wrote:I guess it was a surprise....not. Anyone that knows Rob knows he doesn't screw up like that. Someone hacked in to his acct. and recalled his fleet. They even messaged me to see how long I'd be on.
It never ceases to amaze me why some aholes can't win without cheating. If Zorg doesn't reverse this then fair play is out of the question. I think my days on this server are numbered. Too bad I paid for rubies at Christmas. What a sham!!

THEY messaged you? Who sent the message?

Will say it was a great hit regardless of circumstances....huge numbers everywhere....some players threatening to quit if RJ is not compensated is the same as some people will quit if he IS compensated....this story will go on and on.

Anyway, glotr RJ

ZORTON wrote:I guess it was a surprise....not. Anyone that knows Rob knows he doesn't screw up like that. Someone hacked in to his acct. and recalled his fleet. They even messaged me to see how long I'd be on.
It never ceases to amaze me why some aholes can't win without cheating. If Zorg doesn't reverse this then fair play is out of the question. I think my days on this server are numbered. Too bad I paid for rubies at Christmas. What a sham!!

So lets get this straight...you know who messaged you... Name them..

2nd are you now stating I have cheated... God knows and so does ZE this was a fair spy and fly.. at no time have I anything to do with Rob's account.. Just seems to me that you and he are trying to cover up an messed up FS or a sleepover.. either way this hit stands as a normal hit.. Otherwise all anyone ever has to do is cry the same... "Oh my account has been hacked.. and if I do not get everything back then I will throw teddy out of my pram and quit.."

Well if this hit is reversed then I will quit...stop making a mockery of a great game..

You all know, I never claim foul play, nor have I ever been crashed when I sent a fleet save out. I've always just not fleet saved and been crashed. The fact my fleet returned 8 hours early from a 10 hour Fs is the issue. No matter how you work the times, only a recall would show those times as happening.

If it were normal circumstances, I'd be first to say nice hit, and get on with my day, but these aren't. I even have an email in to admins hoping someone used their own ip address to login, so we can see who the culprit is. I, however, will not be returning if something isn't done.

Good numbers though, and nice hit on your part. You were just lucky to benefit from someone's attempt at a vendetta.

I never named you Mark. The message came from RJ.'s account. However, the person in his account at that time would see me online. I didn't see the message until this morning and assumed it was Rob. He told me this morning that whoever was in his acct. messaged me and also messaged Deidara in Speed.
All I know is that someone's having a good laugh. What goes around, comes around.

ZORTON wrote:I never named you Mark. The message came from RJ.'s account. However, the person in his account at that time would see me online. I didn't see the message until this morning and assumed it was Rob. He told me this morning that whoever was in his acct. messaged me and also messaged Deidara in Speed.
All I know is that someone's having a good laugh. What goes around, comes around.

So you are now saying that the same player/hacker messaged another player in a different server.. I and ZE can prove I have not played any other server in over 18 months..

it would also mean his account in speed would have to be hacked as well.. sorry but this does not sound true..

Yet your 1st statement says that someone has to cheat to win... as I am the only winner here..you are saying I cheated...I have only ever played this game within the rules no cheating nothing underhanded..yet you diminish all my accomplishments..