Honestly, I feel I must disagree. I think this is a great step forward in the development of the game. I dunno about anybody else, although I'm sure I'm not the first , but I can clean out an inactive's planet pretty quick with a few thousand probes. And those whom have resources than I do at their disposal could probably have enough probes to empty a planet with no defenses of millions of resources, leaving way less for new players. The reason I find this to be so devastating is because of a probe's speed.Istalris wrote:Just something for you guys to think about, everyone knows by now ZE isn't the first game of it's kind and probe raiding has been used on and off for 13 years in this kind of game.
Have the others felt the need to reduce the probes to nothing more than glorified sats? No, because it's the not the end of the friggin world, building enough probes to actually make it a decent raiding fleet takes too much effort, and they are too susceptible to suicide attacks. Honestly, the game would be fine and continue to be fine if you just left the probes unchanged, but if you really feel you must, do it carefully.
Zorg wrote:Ace is so much sexier than Acewoonder
Why is that a problem though? If probe raiding inactives was the best thing you can do everyone would be doing it. But it isn't and only a select few individuals actually care to try.Ace wrote:Honestly, I feel I must disagree. I think this is a great step forward in the development of the game. I dunno about anybody else, although I'm sure I'm not the first , but I can clean out an inactive's planet pretty quick with a few thousand probes. And those whom have resources than I do at their disposal could probably have enough probes to empty a planet with no defenses of millions of resources, leaving way less for new players. The reason I find this to be so devastating is because of a probe's speed.Istalris wrote:Just something for you guys to think about, everyone knows by now ZE isn't the first game of it's kind and probe raiding has been used on and off for 13 years in this kind of game.
Have the others felt the need to reduce the probes to nothing more than glorified sats? No, because it's the not the end of the friggin world, building enough probes to actually make it a decent raiding fleet takes too much effort, and they are too susceptible to suicide attacks. Honestly, the game would be fine and continue to be fine if you just left the probes unchanged, but if you really feel you must, do it carefully.
It's not THAT big of a deal, of course. But I for one think it's an improvement, and not just another change.
this is a better agreement for me.Sprog wrote:Thought the majority had agreed already on this...... reduce the cargo capacity AND fuel cost of probes to 0 as Istalris has already suggested.....that way still can be used as fodder and for moonshots
Zorg wrote:Following your suggestion, although a bit premature, I started this topic.
There can be two types of "fixes":
1)Probes cannot be included in attacks at all (only in defence like solar plants).
or
2)Probes cannot attack alone.
As for the other solution proposed:
There is no cargo issue to fix. The probes need the cargo in order to carry their fuel.
Solution #2 only addresses the raiding tactic.
Solution #1 will change combats a bit (beneficially I believe).
The fix will be implemented in Massacre as soon as the implementation era starts (starting soon it seems). It will be delayed in the rest universes till it can get some support (this thread will work as such too).
Spot on there SPY......SPY wrote:being a big shot u can afford a fleet of 200.000 probes.
hence its easy for u to carry out the raiding with those fleets.
put yourself in the shoe of a starter player. who only has Large Cargo ships and Battle Cruisers. How do you think they will servive on when u clean of planets with probes inactive planets?
You are not thinking for others but only for your selfish need.