I'm honestly not sure why probe raids are viewed as a problem. Folks have been using probes to raid defenseless planets for quite some time. If someone has the capital to invest in that, why not?

1) To not include probes in attacks at all eliminates a) most moonshots, and b) use of probes for fodder

2) To prevent probes from being used in attacks alone also eliminates most moonshots by making many such unfeasible for reasons of a) deuterium cost and b) time constraints

I like Istalris idea too.

Zorg wrote:I like Istalris idea too.

Istalris wrote:I have an idea.. reduce the cargo capacity AND fuel cost of probes to 0.

I really could not object to that notion

+1 for Istalris idea as well.

a say no to all of this this will ruin game even more
a use probe to raid inactive planets
60 000
probes
give me 100 000 of each type of resurses in 10 sec or when a put on 10% in 1 min

also using probes is good tactic but many players dont use them

when you change this you change gameplay again

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+1 for ista's idea.

Istalris wrote:I have an idea.. reduce the cargo capacity AND fuel cost of probes to 0.

Much better than mucking up peoples game play for no reason, your fix to a problem will just cause more problems.

Simple and robust. I like it too!
Some ships should only have their specific capabilities. Probes right now have too many roles in this game.

1) Espionage ship
2) Fodder ship
3) Raid Ship
4) Activity check ship

and i am sure there are many more that ppl wd not wanna share on public places.

+1 for istalris idea

+1 on Istalris idea. that would be the best action to take.

Pein wrote:a say no to all of this this will ruin game even more
a use probe to raid inactive planets
60 000
probes
give me 100 000 of each type of resurses in 10 sec or when a put on 10% in 1 min

also using probes is good tactic but many players dont use them

when you change this you change gameplay again

Ultimately, Pein, I am in agreement with you! I have questioned the need for this.

Should the playerbase hope to neuter the probes, however, Istalris' option seems best