Witchywoman wrote:No it is not the admin's responsibility to contact the player. They can just put a (b) beside it and go on their merry way.

rofl, that is the most absurd thing i've ever heard. please tell me, who owns this server? who's job is it to investgate cheating and bugs, then move in to correct them? it is sure as hell not what any of you are being paid to do, if this server dies due to neglect and cheating, who's fault is that? THE OWNER'S, really it's not that difficult of a concept, what YOU own YOU are responsible for. As far as we all know, MOB has done absolutly nothing wrong, because not one of you can provide substantial edvidence proving that WITHOUT A DOUBT he cheated, and that it is impossible he didn't. So he has no reason nor need to explain himself because the owner would rather be ignorant of the ongoings. Also the admin needs to do his own investigating just in case there was a glitch or bug, so that it can be fixed, not just throw on a (b) "and go on their merry way" leaving a bug/glitch still sitting out there.

Lakarin, do you have any idea how difficult it is to run a game like this?
Myself and a friend ran an MMO for a short period, we stole most of the coding from another game, he tweaked where he could and I ran the public front.
When a player pulled something similar to this there was very little we could do to check it. While we did have the server recording every exchange of data for a one week period, and notable events (by given criteria) for the whole server life, we were sifting through nearly one million lines of code a day.
From the activities from and with one account.

Its not the admins job to check everything, its unreasonable. Physically impossible.
Its the players responsibility to play fairly and report any bugs, and to help the admin as much as possible. Its a very very demanding position, and the admin needs all the help he can get.

well first..Great Hit SoC

and for the rest of this..we are the police so to speak ..me,you, everyone..this is a communnity run game..rules and all to be followed by everyone the same...

he doesn't have to explain, you are right there but the question i have that only they can explain is...

how in a house full of people playing can you not know there was a bug in that account??
if you are producing 'x' billion a day in resources and the other accounts are producing 'x' million
a red flag should have gone off in someones head

there is rules..they are easy to read....rest of us have done it..

3 have already been banned and who knows on the rest but its now in Zorg's hands

and thats all i have to say about that!

gumppy wrote:you are producing 'x' billion a day in resources and the other accounts are producing 'x' million

he wasn't doing it ina single day, that is 100% impossible.he could reasonable come up with 1 bill of res every 25 days, possibly slighty faster with metal. just enough for it to be plausible that he is legit. By not fleet building, not communicating, and spending res on defences and buildings, while fleetsaving the rest, it is very possible for him to go unnoticed, sure ppl would pry time to time with the occasional esp probe or a phalanx, but what are the odds them phalanxing just right to find his LCs, or his res grounded.

Also I do not contradict you about us policing the server, it is our job to do that and refer suspicious activity, not lead a manhunt. Just as in reality one must not take the law into his own hands, that can get very messy very fast, leaving the innocent hurt. SOC had no right to order MOB's acc to be banned/deleted what he should have done was reported suspicous behavior and asked an admin to look into it.

oh and rogue, it was just you and a friend... not other staff, nor the resources to hire staff, Zorgempire is more than a 2 man operation. Also that is no excuse for laziness and player abuse.

just to throw out a number, 6bilion in resources would take 240k LC to fleetsave. I realize a lot more than that would have to have been spent. and 240,000 LC is another 3.6 billion itself. to have that many ships for 25 days and NEVER show up on the boards? It is plausible that maybe an experienced player do that, but a guy that gets wtf pwnt the day after he decides to rapidbuild? his skills do not dictate that he has that ability, sorry now way. and just so you know, his response was NOT that he saved, but that he raided like 50 times (ask Klizac) the night before and built it all.

People can set their options so that their fleet doesn't show on the scoreboard.

I think he meant the ranking.

well in that case he may very well have stumbled upon farm that may have been overlooked by others.

Lakarin wrote:well in that case he may very well have stumbled upon farm that may have been overlooked by others.

Seriously?. 50 of them prob.

maybe he crashed me and squirrel to build all that