Zorg wrote:The hit is clean. Both Gozar and RJ have been informed of our investigation results.

All have been asked to keep to the CR Topic.. I do not know why players are still gripping over this.. Logs were checked and showed NO RECALL....thus the fleet returned as it was originally sent.. all be it as an oversight..

Maybe Rob just could not believe he made such a simple mistake.. but lets all end this now..

I am sorry to hear your choice Glen.. I am surprised after all your expense to gain that account..you decide to quit.. I do not think players quitting or threatening to quit to hold ZE to ransom is the answer..

Good luck to you and Rob in RL...it has been fun playing with you guys..

Gozar wrote: All have been asked to keep to the CR Topic.. I do not know why players are still gripping over this.. Logs were checked and showed NO RECALL....thus the fleet returned as it was originally sent.. all be it as an oversight..

Maybe Rob just could not believe he made such a simple mistake.. but lets all end this now..

I am sorry to hear your choice Glen.. I am surprised after all your expense to gain that account..you decide to quit.. I do not think players quitting or threatening to quit to hold ZE to ransom is the answer..

Good luck to you and Rob in RL...it has been fun playing with you guys..

For all the expense, don't care...money is nothing to me.

For everyone else who thinks this game cannot be hacked. If I wanted, I could have hacked Mark's, Karl's, or anyone else's account that I chose to and had them lose fleet. The only safe computer is the one that is never turned on. I never chose to do so because I am what is known as a white hat hacker. My job is to find holes in the security of Information Systems and work with them to fix it.

But, until it can proven to me that RJ made a simple mistake, I shall stay retired.

Mark, we used to be able to talk to each other even though we were adversaries. Now, everyone just blocks each other and doesn't talk. It was always just a game to me and will always be just a game.

I can provide the emails if you'd like, and even show when someone else logged into my account. The Email from Zorg was stating if it wasn't Gozar that did the recall, we won't refund a thing. This is ****, due to the fact that the same things happened to chuck in speed in the past, yet I had nothing to do with it, and they took everything from me and refunded everything to him.

in case you'd like to see when this happened, here's a link...

viewtopic.php?f=36&t=10744

So the reason your hit is being called clean, is not due to a fleet not being recalled, it's due to you having no involvement. so get your facts straight, before posting no sense.

Also, on that note, I am officially announcing my retirement from this sorry excuse for a game. You have double standards, and only pick and choose what should be administrated. I will be vmoding my speed account in the coming days for the same reason.

RJ is actually one the best player i know
seeing him get hit like that , if i spend lots of time in this game and build up my acct I just wasted my time all this time .....................

we are too busy in rl yet we stayed here and played
Zorg , u already lost lots of good players why u wanna loose more ? why ?
the same thing happened before u restored every thing to chuck now when it happens for someone else u just say the hit is Clean !
leaving rank1 in speed make others slowly to leave too and after a while speed get inactive just like mass

ill say a hug congrats as it seems they can do a lot and no one can stop u , can keep login to good players acct and make them to leave the game and no one can stop u .
we might see more things like this as no one has captured and nothing has restored .

Glotr RJ , I guess Zorg doesnt like u as much as chuck xD

Ok to clarify......RJ logged in, RJ logged out.......there was no recall according to logs which track EVERYTHING!!!!.....you think Zorg would make that up? SERIOUSLY???? WHY????......MegaMedes you really think you can hide EVERY footprint IF someone did hack an account? You of all people should know better...there is ALWAYS a footprint if one traces back!!!!!!......and explain this...there was no account activity from the exact time RJ logged off till the time he logged back in later....that is fact...there was no hack......was a simple oversight of which I have also done myself afew times ( I blamed alcohol lol) .....difference? I got away with fleet down...RJ didn't......If any of you have issues with Zorg security /protocols I suggest you email them with valid reasons and stop trolling a c/r thread. Valid hit and all can see it for what it truly is........You guys wanna retire? Do it then....any excuse but the one above please!!!! Majority of people here know what went on...a deluded few don't....No offence RJ but sh*t happens and you lost fleet......it happens, deal with it, move on and come back. Many have lost fleet to you and Gozar in the past and just took it on the chin......I suggest you do the same. Before this all becomes more of a farce than it already is I suggest the powers that be lock this post and put it to rest. Good hit, glotr, last one out turn the ******* lights off!!!!! :0)

Keep post on Topic pls..

I have sat back and tried to accept that you are human and made a simple mistake.. I have tried to keep away from the past... Yet these continued false statements one after the other just as you did before..

You wish all in ZE to believe your account alone was hacked... you even post a link to what happened in Speed... yet if you read your own link and I am sorry chuck_da_reaper but you were NOT hacked...you just gave out your login details to the wrong person... ZE have stated time and time again.. If your account is logged into by another person because you have given out the account details..it is your FAULT... ZE is not responsible for login details you are.. so no account was hacked.. FACT.. imo... that hit should have stood .. even though it was underhanded.. I also think the fact that you were passed information sounds as if you were involved in it somehow.

Your statement that ZE sent you emails relating to any involvement I may have had in your account is totally different from the emails they sent me.. You and I both know that no personal messages can be posted without both parties agreeing..so an easy way of pretending to prove nothing...

Lets stick to the facts... What you are saying happened here was that Zorg Empire SERVER was in fact hacked.. your account alone was entered and fleet recalled... Sorry Rob.. just to hard to believe..1st off it is a major crime under international law to hack servers.. That someone would commit such a major crime for something so trivial...is beyond belief.


Megamedes..you surprise me even more on this and I quote:-
"For everyone else who thinks this game cannot be hacked. If I wanted, I could have hacked Mark's, Karl's, or anyone else's account that I chose to and had them lose fleet. The only safe computer is the one that is never turned on. I never chose to do so because I am what is known as a white hat hacker. My job is to find holes in the security of Information Systems and work with them to fix it." end quote.

You of all people know the consequences of such actions Glen... Why would someone of such talent do something so trivial with no value.. I will state here and now if you have these skills you may as well do what you said you could, because if this hit is reversed in anyway because you and Rob's followers are trying to emotionally blackmail ZE I no longer wish to play.

What you guy's are trying to do will make a total mockery of a game we all have spent many years on..

The biggest shame is Rob you are a great player, just you can not play fair, you will do anything to be #1 or to look good..you gave it a good shot but you failed.. Accept and move on. Oh and your signature..

"They may not like me, but they've gotta respect me!" ...sorry not after this..


Now I agree that this post has gone way out of control, as such I will lock it. Unless Zorg wishes to make any further statements.. I also accept any warning punishment for my final post on this matter..

I just want this hit published (share combat link, etc). If Gozar/RJ agree, just post away.

I will unlock the topic again. Please avoid administration baiting and name calling. Do not post private communication either with administration or other players.

Back on topic, GLoTR RJ

I have no problem showing this hit as requested...

REMOVED as other party objected...????????????

Do not see why you do Rob...But not bothered either way just trying to comply with Zorg's.. request..I do not need to gloat..You have done more harm to yourself than I did to your fleet..

Can all from this point forward stay on Topic.. if not I will lock again..

YOU have no problem Gozar, but did Rob accept the posting of the hit? If he didn't then you can't have that here.

I don't remember agreeing to anything...Thus you should probably remove it.

No reason, just don't think you should gloat is all. So, since I'm waiting to vmode my speed account, i'll check in periodically. I'd have no problem if it was asked before you decided it was ok, but since you didn't I won't agree.


Have a good one.