I have posted this subject before in fact 2yrs ago.. I said then that the n00b protection should be extended to MD missions as well as the prevention of higher ranked players being able to FS to these n00b moons.. Unfortunately you can not have one without the other..(other wise you will get players not in n00b protection using these n00b moons as a fail proof FS). All I am saying is that all any player has to do is get a buddy to start an account get a moon of any size then FS to it.. this would be in my opinion abusing the protection we are trying to offer new players.

Like wise the ability to IPM a n00b and like wise a n00b to be able to IPM any size player should also be removed.

If a player is in n00b protection then this should include any game option from a stronger player..like wise the fact a n00b can not attack someone stronger than themselves should include launching IPM's.. this is fair to all players strong or weak.. A simple addition would be a stronger player can NOT ACS defend a n00b at all.

The most important part is keeping the game play equal. To prevent anyone abusing the n00b protection rule.

A very important point is this hit by Cristi is a prime example of a stronger player using a n00bs moon.. Ezio could not have had the size fleet that was destroyed including the rips that were on his moon, as he is unable even to build rips at this stage of his game.. therefore the fleet lost was not his..

looks like you are again condemning one side of the drum again. this thread is not about accusing i suppose but as long as you are doing it neither can be accused of doing anything wrong as this is still allowed in game.

get that tone adjusted big guy. being neutral is not that hard.

anyways i do agree that the player protection rules needs to be extended to moon destroy and ipms as well as ACS defend. if attack is restricted so should be acs defend missions as well.

SPY wrote:looks like you are again condemning one side of the drum again. this thread is not about accusing i suppose but as long as you are doing it neither can be accused of doing anything wrong as this is still allowed in game.

get that tone adjusted big guy. being neutral is not that hard.

anyways i do agree that the player protection rules needs to be extended to moon destroy and ipms as well as ACS defend. if attack is restricted so should be acs defend missions as well.

Here you go again..you just can't help yourself.. keep your remarks to the point in question and stop being personal.
Your derogatory remarks are unfounded and not required.. I was being neutral.. the whole point of my reply.. This hit was about the miss use of a strong player using the loop hole in the n00b protection rule.. actually FS to a n00bs moon with a hold time, knowing only another n00b could even probe it let alone launch. Thus a flaw in the current rules. Seems to me you are beating the other side of the drum yourself. Then you go and spoil it by agreeing..Doh...

Let's all stop with the flaming and keep to the topic.. please.

btw found a previous post I made on the same subject earlier this year..

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=11527&p=121146&hili ... oy#p121146

to clarify I was 40k and active. I don't know how cristi got me but it was a good hit..

to clarify the only thing that was not mine on my moon was 2 rips the rest of the fleet was mine

Ezio wrote:to clarify I was 40k and active. I don't know how cristi got me but it was a good hit..

We are trying to help you here...1st off the fleet he hit was not entirely all your fleet..as there is no way with your points and development that you are able to build rips.. yet there where some in the fleet hit plus with your total points gained and resources raided . no way on this game or any other you could have had a fleet of that size.. thus brings us back to the Point that even despite that you are in n00b protection the current rules allow MD mission on n00bs.. thus Cristi popped your moon and any fleet there is automatically engaged with the incoming Rips..

We are trying to get this mission removed along with the option of any strong player being able to use your moons to fleet save to..

I think the best option for ZE is to not allow any mission to a n00b moon by a strong player... this will stop any miss use. if a stronger player wishes to send a gift to help a n00b then the only mission that should be permitted is a transport mission and then only to a planet and not moon...(this can be sent from a moon as not to show on lanx) Thus any miss use of the n00b protection rule is removed. jmo..

I agree that MDs and IPMs should be restricted based on the Noob Protection rule. Also, Noobs should not be able to IPM stronger players as well. Should be blocked both ways. If they cannot attack the player, then MDs and IPMs should be restricted too. Just my opinion.

I , myself don`t agree with killing the the players in n00b protection
I don`t agree with a stronger/n00b player IPM eachother,
I don`t agree with stronger players use n00bs moons to hide their fleets.

'game play equal' lol.. i simply suggest one more attack zone differential. AZ's should be a bit more restrictive than 100k plus then full go. AZ's should be layered.

Hound that is a suggestion to look at.
Nice hit anyway Mate. Glotr enzo