1st, jackal has 22K permanent points
2nd, I will only accept the fact that viperfang is at war with HC if he keeps to the rules and posts a war topic on the alliance war section, (which i have asked for, and got told there wasn't going to be war... I want to clear up weather there is or not.) With a CR secition to go with it (only to include attacks after the post has been put up)

In response to your 50K profit hits, this is one of our latest circs from jackal
Let's not be posting circs, Sloth has said they are not allowed.-DR

Last points, when you attacked me you knew i was online, you stated you knew i was going to lift res, you use rips so hardly a waste of duet when you got a total of 5 metal 2 cystal back, and when you launched there was barely 10K res on each planet, btw thats the first time i have EVER seen someone make a loss on a RIP attack on any server, let alone 3 as i got the d/f

as for ''.....contruga had a chance to end this by posting a NAP in forums'' Hells champions isnt going to back down to black mail from 1 member when your alliance are profit.

only 22k permanent points.....sigh points are points....

look at ghosts.....5k....yea congrats there was a little profit there....i get the same amount in 30 minutes or LESS attacking inactives....i took offense to you declaring war on my alliance for something i PERSONALLY said.....

Twist it any way you want.....i asked jackal to stop.....you declared war.....I am the person you have a beef with not members of this alliance with 5k points.....

The way HC wages "war" is like stealing a lolipop from a baby because the father pissed you off.....

I personally challenged your ENTIRE ALLIANCE to bring it....no war needed...take up your "beef" with the father not the baby.....

Furthermore im done with the forums....not neccessary to play the game.....and well the drama tkes longer to respond to than clicking "attack" peace!

So jackal-ghost= 4x difference (this is just an exmple of profit hit, jsut happend to be first hit i saw)
Coz having 70K perm points and hitting me with 10K so you-me=7x difference

Also would like to clarify, War with VS was being spoken about while HC warred AZG, however because i was declared on by AZG2 it got delayed, the PM made us all chuckle a little about how you expected us to stop farming members because you told us to... so instead waiting a day extra to declare we declared straight off.

The main thing i just realised, who the Watch your language, flaming is allowed but foul language is not.-DR said that you were an easy farm? (not saying you arent either havent tried but still..) but really if there isnt going to be a war why would i, or any of HC, take up your challenge when its not an interesting war or a daily farm?

You pride yourself to much thinking your worth our time trying to attack when there is no real reason behind it.

Meh, don't know if ViperFang is going to read my comment on his rantings, since he's declared to be done with the forum. But lemme say this about this whole pissing contest he's started... He Pm'ed Jackal to stop attacking a target or there would be an "issue"
We are HC, we attack for profit and declare wars when we see profit to be made. I'd like to point out the word profit in the last sentence, that's our objective in this game , nothing else. So if you tell one of HC to stop making profit, you basically tell HC as an alliance to sod it! Which we will not accept since nobody tells us what to do , even if that somebody has 3 RIPs. Those RIP's hardly make you invincible, dear boy. Do not try to tell 12 players what to do , based on your fleet, you keep forgetting we have some too
So to keep it short, no we will not stop attacking planets for profit, stronger or weaker player, it doesn't matter!
You're asking us to bring it on, no we're not mindless berserkers to blindly attack.. You keep going on like this and out of the blue we will retaliate! In the meantime ,we'll keep raiding and farming those who are clueless on the matter of leaving their planets unprofitable and on F/Sing.
Good day to you ,Sir...

this is pointless.....why send me a private message with a link here....for more drama?

you attacked our member i retaliated....laugh if you want but your alliance has still yet to attack me....the one you have a problem with.....you continue to attack members of an alliance that has already surrendered.....so it seems to me you have very little true honor......

I called your alliance out and all i hear is that you attack for profit waa waaa waaaaaaa....

Its not profitable to attack someone with 3 million in defence(as your report shows) for 150k in resources....that fleet had to consume massive amounts of duet........as the debris feild shows there were mostly solar satellites.....so your profits are significantly LESS than attacking any player with 0 points with only LC that consume hardly any duet....and are all around the galaxy....

MR. Sinister....i will not talk about it anymore....i asked you to leave one player that jackal attacks DAILY if not several times a day alone...1 player in the whole universe......your response(HC) was to declare war.....so be it.....thats arrogant and absolutely non-diplomatic......i told jackal that if he didnt stop WE (me and jackal) would have issues.....contruga is the one that turned this into a big issue....im just finishing the fight he wanted....

look at that hit... was 500K profit,
plus therewas only 50 sats and some fleet

Viperfang wrote:this is pointless.....why send me a private message with a link here....for more drama?

you attacked our member i retaliated....laugh if you want but your alliance has still yet to attack me....the one you have a problem with.....you continue to attack members of an alliance that has already surrendered.....so it seems to me you have very little true honor......

I called your alliance out and all i hear is that you attack for profit waa waaa waaaaaaa....

Its not profitable to attack someone with 3 million in defence(as your report shows) for 150k in resources....that fleet had to consume massive amounts of duet........as the debris feild shows there were mostly solar satellites.....so your profits are significantly LESS than attacking any player with 0 points with only LC that consume hardly any duet....and are all around the galaxy....

MR. Sinister....i will not talk about it anymore....i asked you to leave one player that jackal attacks DAILY if not several times a day alone...1 player in the whole universe......your response(HC) was to declare war.....so be it.....thats arrogant and absolutely non-diplomatic......i told jackal that if he didnt stop WE (me and jackal) would have issues.....contruga is the one that turned this into a big issue....im just finishing the fight he wanted....

haha...maybe cost 50k deut to launch on 3 million defenses thats what it costs me...just becaus ethey have a problem with you doesnt mean they are going to ignore the whole universe and just hunt you...if they find profit on your members theyll launch....the smart thing to do would be to talk to your members about how to avoid being proffitable...you like to use analogies... You represent your alliance...what you say REFLECTS your alliance...if your a leader act like one because personally i would never follow such an awful leader...The Vandals which you named yourself after were a warlike people yet you claim to be peaceful maybe you need a name change... Fuzzy Teddy Bears might be a better name for you all...now just sit there and get the stuffing beat out of you...

Going to have to step in and say tone down the flaming a bit you guys, it's starting to get a bit ridiculous.

is it just me or shouldnt a moderator of ANY FORUM have a little more restraint than downright attacking a player? moderators should be above that joshandrew, however no matter how you feel about me, my alliance isnt part of this.......as you SHOULD have read this is between HC and ME.....they tried to drag in he alliance....which i am NOT a spokesman for.....just an interim leader....

All i can say is that a moderator should not be allowed to (in my opinion) abuse his position and talk down to other platers on the forum.....isnt that your job to maintain the forums? keep them from becoming massive flaming grounds? Wow i expected more from someone labeled moderator....

mild flaming is allowed in Union of Honor...and all my comments were made as another player not a moderator...