That's the spirit!

Ouch!!! Good hit Gen. Sorry to hear about the loss of your fleet Kron, but I watched you build it once, I know you can do it again.

GLOTR.

Jonny

Ouch! That *****. I don't trust the battle sim either, very unreliable if you ask me, especially when the opponent has a large RF value against you. GLOTR Kron, I'm pretty sure you'll be up and kicking in no time.

GeneralWickedDeez wrote:A little more to the story...Kron has hit a few of my friends but one in particular that stuck a nerve. I decided the plan with the rest of the VVV and I sent 241 rips on a MD.
GWD.

Let’s just say one would wish to avoid hitting a few of your friends. Is there a public list of these friends available somewhere? Do they perhaps belong to your alliance? I guess what I'm getting at, did you mention him that A) he hit a friend of yours and carnage would ensue if it continued B) he hit a friend and carnage would now just ensue spontaneously C) the friend told him you were a friend and would ensue more carnage if it happened again D) the friend told him you were a friend and of course yet again carnage would ensue instantly with no warning. E) the friend told you he brought carnage and you returned carnage with no warning.

Just trying to get a feel for the general morals of a strong Zorg Empire player, because I mean like if everyone in VVV had 3 random friends out there I would guess that would constitute for about at least 75% of the players over 2.5mil points. If I last that long, I need to know who to stay away from, or if I should just go vmode after I hit 2.mil points to avoid all that carnage above.

Avatar has a good point... VVV does have a lot of friends, though I'm not sure it's as many as Avatar enphasized, since gummpy and a few others get nice attacks about 2 or 3 times a month. If I hit a high points player, should I be worried about a VVV retaliation?

To put this at rest....

Kron had hit a friend/teamate.

Also has just been posted as the new #10 in the top 10...Better than nothing I guess.


GWD.

1st on the battle..even though both took casualties on the high end both seemed to have a good time with it.Hell as crazy as Kronic is i doubt if he had it to do over again he would not have done anything different.Point being they BOTH had a hell of a good time and got some laughs and enjoyed themselves..It's a F'n war game people!!But foremost a GAME!

As to your concerns Avatar ..for the exact reasons you are concerned about is the EXACT reason you should be hitting people.The idea is to come here and have fun regardless what happens.Should you lose your fleet or some resources..big whoop they will be more res and the chance to rebuild tomorrow and with a little luck you get smarter survive longer and have even more fun later.
Do i have friends in hiding ..you bet your @ss i do..will i take them out the first time i catch them napping..you bet your @ss i will.And that is the cycle we go thru..live n learn and move on.

I promise you the adrenalin rush they both had when the moment of pixel destroying was going on was high and to see you plan fail like it did for kronic is a bubble buster..i know from my attack on SBT over a year ago..but was still fun as hell.

Fleeting maybe the highest risk and yes you have to dodge VVV every second of the day,But it is NOT impossible and is far and away without a doubt the most fun you will have.Especially when entagling with online targets as then it becomes a chess match.This retarded trend of massive turtles is not got to get you any rush or enjoyment and with 5 to 6 messages coming across my desk everyday of 'here's another turtle for ya' means i am gonna see it eventually and it is gonna get crushed.It was my fault dexters got out of hand and it isn't gonna happen again so everyone might as well take a chance and go make some bangs.If you lose it oh well rebuild it and go get em back..if you can't handle an incoming fleet PM a VVV member and ask for an acs(unless of course it is one of own in which case you are prolly F@#ked).We'll take your fleet in a heart beat but the chance to mess up someone elses world first is more exciting.

So yeah Avatar at any given moment of any given day you could hit someone that might feed us intel but you shouldn't be afraid of it,embrace it,enjoy it,accept it and run with it cause i promise you watching 30% of a defense you spent rez on that can not get out of the way of my fleet,can not attack anyone, get pulverized is gonna be more crushing then losing a fleet that you got to hopefully hit a few people with and can dodge incoming attacks.

And shame on anyone who picks on people for sharing their glories in UoH regardless of the size of TD.For along time the universe has been spoiled by the 1bil + hits and forgot what it was like when they was growing up.If a 30 million hit is the best you can do with the fleet you have atm then brag about it..you earned that right.This fear of tipping your hand to VVV is over rated because we prolly already know what you have anyhow whether it be thru probes or PMs from your targets or watching you work thru phalanx.

Anyhow thats my 2 cents worth
DrEvil aka gumppy aka the prick aka the 'CUNTIS'

gumppy, you sound different...

Anyway, I am not going to stop playing and get into vmode at any point in my time here at Zorg Empire, that I can currently foresee that is, that was just sarcasm.

But you still haven't really addressed my main thought, which was, are stronger players thoughtful and considerate or are they just plain diks because they can afford to be?

For example, if someone attacked a friend of mine and I was in a position to do something about it, the first thing I would do is diplomatically send the user a message asking them to desist in any further hostility. But I take it from what you’re saying and thus using as a template for the rest of the strong players here currently in Zorg Empire, you all wouldn't do that, you would just simply attack?

I am still kinda new here thats all, just trying to get a feel on how others play the game!!

i can see what you mean avatar, but gump did answer most of your question for you. we are not just asses because we are high ranked, like he said, we'd be more than happy to help defend anyone who asked for it if we were in the position to do so (as long as its not against one of us).

its not just that either, i can pretty much gauruntee that if anyone ever PM'd a VVV member asking for advice on the game, we would give it where we can.

we wont just attack people because we can, in a fleeters world profit/time is the deciding factor of 98% of launches. the other 2% might include people that pissed one of us off in some way and we dont care about profit, or crushing turtles for no profit before they become to big to handle.

but, i think i can speak for most of us when i say this, we are more the send fleet first think about diplomacy later types. ive never really been much of a peace talker myself.

In my case TEAM comes first then diplomacy. I do have my personal NAP (check out BR13 alliance page) but if one of my teammates hits a BR member i will congratulate him/her and wish GLOTR on the victim. It is true 98% of hits are profitable and fleeting is the most adrenaline rush you will have. Being the 2nd lowest member I still have to RUN from some fleets and that causes just as much of a rush as attacking. VVV isn't selfish fleeters keeping secrets to themselves I have fed 50+M hits to people outside the alliance to help them grow. But I deter....Great job on the moon destroy/fleet crush mission GWD and GLOTR kronic (whenever you get out of vmode...again)