Guyz, this is strictly Alliance opinions only, please dont respond to other posts its just for a read of how you guyz gage all the alliances and its always just a personal opinion.

1 Apocalypse 5 92.421.833 18.484.366

We are an alliance containing the best of the best and we earned our stripes. We are also one of the most helpful alliances around and although we may be strong we always help new players groom into the game. Inside the alliance we are all good friends and its all about trust, trust isnt there you just are not one of us.

2 RAWK 12 47.987.428 3.998.952

If your a mod your in lol. If your anti -A-, your in. Marauder has tried to bring back the great name that RAWK once stood for. I dont see it myself but they have some colourful characters and a trades master in Sloth. Gales obsession with trying to beat down -A- makes the top two ranked alliances very much against each other (just how it should be)

3 The Arcane Armada 49 44.357.625 905.257

Pein is a great leader and this has to be the most exciting alliance around, they dont back out of wars and make it so exciting and they even tried taking on -A- and Gozar. I think this Alliance is great for the game

4 Angels of Death 22 31.972.641 1.453.301

Where did they go, always been a farm alliance and although they have a great leader in YUNA with her dissapearance its just an alliance not really doing much. It would be great to see these reappear out the shadows

5 Eterna-ZEFA Treaty 22 30.392.078 1.381.458

These guys have really dropped in the ranks since PK has left, we hope one day the best ever fleeter in ZE returns. with him gone many have seeked revuge behind the VM button and unless PK returns this alliance really is rusting up

6 Black Rebellion 13 24.491.919 1.883.993

-A- have two of there best players now and recent developments have seen players like Matts21 prove what a wally he is and left. BR are not the force they once were and are slowly dropping.
7 Azguard 28 15.369.803 548.921

My good friend Defiant has returned, he smelt a war and bang was back quicker than an atomic bomb hitting Horishima. I have always like AZG and they are probably the oldest alliance in game to date.8 Valiance 15 6.632.489 442.165

Dont know to much about them, but they have quite a few farms and i havent really seen them do too much, you guys definatley need a war or to do something unless your plan is just to be a pointless alliance.

9 Return of the Greats 8 5.136.739 642.092

Return of the Who? What greats, coz i dont see them lol

10 DeathSquad 3 4.213.103 1.404.367

quite catchy, three guys, a deathsquad now where are the deaths?

11 Elite Soldiers United 9 4.018.361 446.484

I havent heard of them, so guessing they are new or just been renamed, all the same, you need a war.

12 The BORG 15 3.448.077 229.871

FARMS lol

1 Apocalypse

The alliance i blame for for teaching everyone how to fleetsave lol! Always a great alliance with great players, always kept me on my toes (V, VVV, IB) and still does. Gozar keeping it interesting and Fish basically the only one here with great rugby knowledge Deserve to be nr.1... for now

2 RAWK

Great to see the name RAWK back again! Returning some balance to zorg (pointwise) but haven't seen much aggression from them yet like in the old days. Hope they can do justice to the name!

3 The Arcane Armada

Way too big alliance for my liking, but they are definitely stirring up some ****! With my old AZG mate Pein leading and doing a great job (except for telling Gozar where my fleet is lol!) they bring a refreshing inspiration to the game. All the best to them as I'm sure we'll see them in battle again

4 Angels of Death

Used to be good rivals but really dead or dying right now. Really hope they stand up again!

5 Eterna-ZEFA Treaty

Not much happening here and not really farms, as it's difficult to farm a v-mode.

6 Black Rebellion

Lost some good players and I don't see them as a threat. Dropping in ranks and need to update their alliance info page

7 Azguard

Missing the old players like Malphage, Anubis, Domengski, etc. but AZG is full of potential with great players who I'm sure will make their mark in zorg if they haven't already. Already climbed 5 positions in the rankings since my return almost 2 months ago, and i'm sure with these guys AZG will be in the top 5 again in no time! Just don't play like the Springboks hey fish? lol!

8 Valiance

Silent but ... ... nah just silent. I'm sure they can and will do better in future with KarrothMelu at the head.

9 Return of the Greats 8 5.136.739 642.092

Still waiting for the return... come on guys, make some noise!

10 DeathSquad

Only 1 member now so not an alliance

11 The BORG

I don't like calling people farms, but when you hit them there's absolutely no retaliation.. not even a probe...

16 $aMaeL™®© !

Adding them in here although they're ranked 16th now. They are popping up everywhere and actually knows how to fleetsave (most of them). I think they will be ranked much higher in a couple of months!

I have found this thread was directed specially to flame other alliances. i dont see how this is constructive.

the thread ownders point of view towards other alliance is questionable. i was honestly interested and was hoping to find something worth of reading but after what u wrote about is not constructive.

if there is nothing constructive you can contribute i dont see why would u create a thread like this and hope to find responses without FLAME.

also a similar thread without bias is already there in this, you should have just renewed that thread rather creating this.

another fail attempt to post judgement.

I actually don't see much real flaming going on here.

Yeah what flaming? I'm interested in peoples opinions over the top alliances, nothing else.

I also thought this should've been in the other old thread, but where's the fire?

if u want to have zero flame i would appreciate if it was without speculation and with the right attitude towards the name of true constructive criticism.
the down bellow is a pure speculation. if u are looking for lies spread it pm... if u are looking actual views based on facts post without dopped up lies.

Walshy wrote: 5 Eterna-ZEFA Treaty 22 30.392.078 1.381.458

These guys have really dropped in the ranks since PK has left, we hope one day the best ever fleeter in ZE returns. with him gone many have seeked revuge behind the VM button and unless PK returns this alliance really is rusting up

i see you are hear to listen to lies rather really discuss things more objectively.

and that is trolling and it guides flaming.

SPY wrote:if u want to have zero flame i would appreciate if it was without speculation and with the right attitude towards the name of true constructive criticism.
the down bellow is a pure speculation. if u are looking for lies spread it pm... if u are looking actual views based on facts post without dopped up lies.

Walshy wrote: 5 Eterna-ZEFA Treaty 22 30.392.078 1.381.458

These guys have really dropped in the ranks since PK has left, we hope one day the best ever fleeter in ZE returns. with him gone many have seeked revuge behind the VM button and unless PK returns this alliance really is rusting up

i see you are hear to listen to lies rather really discuss things more objectively.

and that is trolling and it guides flaming.

I don't see anything wrong with Fishpond's assessment. You, Spy have been in V-mode for such a long time and it all started when you joined this elite group of players (EZT). We would like to see much more from a great fleeting alliance, but we have been let down. There is no flaming here in my opinion, just a statement of fact.

if u want to see much more you should be patient. you accept one player cause he is said big and a good fleeter... but u wont accept players who arent big but have similar personal issues that playing ze is not option for them as well.

if this is how u think i guess you accept explanations only from players who are accomplished in game. who are u to question why i cant be playing active in game or not? and how is that associated with alliance performance.

also the ranking is based on points as you have already said this alliance is a fleeter alliance clearly u fail to point that out that most of them are actually fleet saving hence having low points in total if u really have been constructive you would be pointing that key point and congratulate them not just try to belittle the name of a great alliance.

i say you just are here to joke about other ppl. no respect at all.

SPY wrote:if u want to see much more you should be patient. you accept one player cause he is said big and a good fleeter... but u wont accept players who arent big but have similar personal issues that playing ze is not option for them as well.

if this is how u think i guess you accept explanations only from players who are accomplished in game. who are u to question why i cant be playing active in game or not? and how is that associated with alliance performance.

also the ranking is based on points as you have already said this alliance is a fleeter alliance clearly u fail to point that out that most of them are actually fleet saving hence having low points in total if u really have been constructive you would be pointing that key point and congratulate them not just try to belittle the name of a great alliance.

i say you just are here to joke about other ppl. no respect at all.

And everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You have heard ours and we have heard yours. Now let others have their say too.

i guess i have different understanding about opinions and spreading lies.