just one thing. if the normal attack is that slow how would acs attack be any difference? when u have the ships coming at u with what not warning bells it dont matter if its acs or normal attack. only time an acs can be worth while would be if u have it on the lanx and time fixed.

think about the options the top guy can come up with if the attack is due of that period. the entire acs attack fleet can get wiped out if u are not careful. u really are vulnerable for ninja. i would not want that much risk. personally i would never try that in standard even if its incorporated.

Omg, why still bother if replies like this come... we'll just forget about it then, the last 2 replies convinced at least me on how dumb we really were in asking for this.. how misguided we are to actualy think posting here would matter. The arguments against ACS attack in Standard Universe layed down here are so overwhelming that I really do not know how we could even ask for an equal treatment.....

Thanks to everyone who tried to support our wishes, regrettably it did not make a difference.

Anyways, just to make it clear to anyone, who had a shred hope for this, the kind PM I received from Zorg yesterday clarifies it all:

no ACS for current Standard Universe, period. Everyone else gets it though.

Ragnorac wrote:Omg, why still bother if replies like this come... we'll just forget about it then, the last 2 replies convinced at least me on how dumb we really were in asking for this.. how misguided we are to actualy think posting here would matter. The arguments against ACS attack in Standard Universe layed down here are so overwhelming that I really do not know how we could even ask for an equal treatment.....

Thanks to everyone who tried to support our wishes, regrettably it did not make a difference.

Anyways, just to make it clear to anyone, who had a shred hope for this, the kind PM I received from Zorg yesterday clarifies it all:

no ACS for current Standard Universe, period. Everyone else gets it though.

Not that the opinions of a few players from the 2407 active in that universe is going to change the admins plans. You may not like it, and you may even leave, but others will rise up and take your place, it's how it always works. It's their game to do what they will with, we don't pay for it (buying rubies is a donation, holding the fact that you spend loads on them is irrelevant) so we just have fun with what we have, and if it's not fun, why play?

Thanks for that new input, just what we needed to clear the whole matter up.. What a star!

Istalris, Ragnorac is the highest ranked player that doesn't buy rubies in Standard just so you know.

His battle count backs that statement up so your excuse of him being a ruby-buyer to get to the top is void.

There aren't even 300 players with 10k points in Standard(after how many months?) so I hardly call it a booming and 'active' server.

player ranked number 1020 is the FIRST ONE with a single point in the ranking list. and we didnt even count the endless inactives and ppl with (v) modus, multis whatever. this sunday approx 250 accounts got deleted so at best the universe is steady on a low level. buarrppp

Negotiator wrote:so your excuse of him being a ruby-buyer to get to the top is void.

I don't believe I said Ragnorac used rubies to get to his position, neither do I remember saying that any of you used rubies to attain your ranks. All I did was point out a few facts, you guys are going through my post and picking little bits out and choosing to reply to those only. I don't care how you see it, but what I said is the truth whether you want to believe it or not.

I'm not saying I agree with the decisions taken, in fact in my opinion leaving Standard without ACS is ridiculous and serves no positive purpose, however, decisions are decisions. Getting annoyed on the forums is not going to do anything but get yourselves more worked up.

Standard server is going trough the same procedure as Xtreme did, players waiting for acs attack getting their hopes up with announcements and in the end after long waiting the hopes get crushed.
No need to whine about it anymore and accept the facts, you already came so far without acs attack and surely you can go even much further.
If you want acs attack that badly wait for the new server and join there.

bc of no acs .. we ready lose 4 player ... and some other will follow them
looks like standard have no future now

Or the huge fleeters will leave in frustration, allowing those beneath them to grow more efficiently.