Zorg Empire

Well..., 60 days have come and gone...
and there was a huge outburst over deletion of last inactives....
probably the most activity in forums and alliance chat since the competition...
and zorg continues...
Was it all misguided and wrong predictions by the players...
Saying zorg messed up.., game will suffer..., players will lose interest..., slower growth...bla bla bla.....
So.., the question is...
Did they.., or not?
well....
speaking only from my perspective...
It seems more quiet...
and others, including players in my alliance feel the same..
I have started raiding again...
but on Massacre...., yes... different server...
cause there are inactives still to raid...
and you could get a decent haul if you worked at it...
and NO...,
I will not keep raiding in Massacre if they deleted the inactives there...
so sitting with huge mines in extreme helps me...
but I feel for the raiders here...
and I still say that deleting the inactives slowed the game down...
but Zorg will know..
was it a good... or a bad move...

If your only sources of income is raiding inactive players than you need a new play style, the game was never meant to have hundreds of inactive's around to be farmed.... It has always been this way people go inactive their accounts get deleted to make space for new players... maybe instead of crying look harder for players you can make a profit of off, IM playing extreme and i still find plenty of inactives with resources on them...

I concur with that last post. The point is to encourage the attacking of live, active players. A spattering of inactives to help players fill in the gaps. That was always the case. Over and over, inactives have been deleted. It's not a new thing. In this case I think it was just delayed.

Read what it says under the options, down where you enter v mode. Inactive accounts WILL BE DELETED AFTER 45 days!

If they haven't, look at it as a bonus that you've had up until now. Now that said bonus is withdrawn. New players have started, many have gone inactive. So, everything goes full circle. IT has all happened before, it will all happen again.

Okay, I have a couple things to say here.

1) evilbass ISN'T bringing this up because he spends hours a day raiding inactives... he hardly raids inactives anymore, as he has said before... he hunts smaller fleet and has decent mines! His concern is for the state of the server... Raiding is still decent, in some places, but that's because the big raiders are away... The server is pretty inactive right now. Make of that what you will, but if there were plenty of active players, we wouldn't still be having this discussion...

2) I'm tired of people telling other people what style they should play!!! No one tells players who do nothing but mine that they need to find a new playing style! Why is it unacceptable to be a player who only farms inactives? EVERY playing style (miner, raider, fleeter, turtle, or any combination there of) should be considered equally valid... If you dismiss a certain playing style as invalid you are going to lose players!

I'm still holding out hope that players will return and things will pick up, but I'd like to see people being more supportive of alternate playing styles. Just because it's not the style you play, doesn't mean it's not important or valid! Raiders got a BIG set-back with the inactive v-moding... if you rely on your mines, imagine if your mines suddenly produced half of what they used to in the same amount of time! This is what it was like for many raiders, and this is why they were so upset.

In my mind this entire discussion is really much more about maintaining and keeping active players than it is about inactive farms.

Josh.., and Mightyoz ..,
now...., that was so funny to read....
you both didn't even read the topic..., or really dont understand it....
It was not about play styles.... read it again...
So.., more info... to help...
I am on the massacre server for not even 60 days...
If you guys think you could get to my current level on the massacre game without raiding you must be geniuses..
I have loads of attacking medals.., and raiding medals...
because!!.....????
Well... if you starting off its the only way to grow...
if you saying start playing this game raiding actives only...well... go start again..., and see..
YOU NEED TO RAID!!...
which is a point some of you writing here in forums seems to miss...
Yes.., once your mines are 40/35/35..., you can sit back and collect res... find smaller fleets..., and res...
and THEN try and find some BIGGER fleet kills... with resulting profits..
as they happen to come along now about once every 2/3 months..
for any one other than Gozar.., and the other big fleeters..
This game.., as Pulsar says..., is also about middle players..,
not only the big fish...
but I am happy you guys feel its only a wrong "style" of play...
and that by deleting those inactives.., you overall achieved a MUCH more active game!!..
With players FORCED to attack others...
and suddenly the game got into a new level...
so if all still believe the game was boosted!! more active players..., more fleets down.., more action on the server...more active chat in the alliances..., Well..., Congratulations then... its an improvement....
Just on the side.. remember..., speaking about play styles.... in a game.., the MORE different styles of play you can involve.., the busier the game becomes.. and those styles might not be your style....
So again...
..... did the game get better post last inactive deletion?...
incidentally..
.... that was the question...

First evilbass you misconstrue that i have some almighty account, my big accounts were long since deleted for inactivity i have an account with 200k on massacre, and one i just started on xtreme with less than 10k points.... so your little jab about starting a new account, well ive done that and guess what i have 15 inactive withing 10 systems of me... you need to look harder...


To pulsar,

1. if he doesn't hunt in-actives why make a post only complaining about the deletion of in-actives? it just doesnt make sense.
2. Again if he doesn't raid inactives why did he make a statement about raiding in massacre because there are inactives there...


I've been around allot longer than most, in fact there are few players left that have been around longer... been playing this game for half a decade and ive heard these complaints many a times, its just whining about the lack of free food and excuse my bluntness, but as a player I find it annoying that people think they should just be handed everything to them... The game has a circle of life.... People join, they quit and go inactive, they get farmed, they get deleted, they get replaced, and it repeats....

its not your account... or your playstyle josh..
or how big your account is.. or mine is...
its about how active the game is.. as a result...
and again..., that was the question...
on extreme I had stopped raiding long before the inactive deletions...
so NO.., it didnt affect me at all from a "getting res" point of view...
BUT...,
It did cause a lot of smaller/medium players to reduce their game time..
and with that my chances of finding fleets down...
so it did effect my game...
cause of less active fleets raiding/down.. etc..

Haha, I like this quote "osh.., and Mightyoz ..,
now...., that was so funny to read....
you both didn't even read the topic..., or really dont understand it....
It was not about play styles.... read it again..."

The author should practice what he preaches at least with reference to my own post. TRY READING WHAT I WROTE!

I simply said that this has happened before, it will happen again. The policy is to delete accounts that have been inactive for more than FORTY FIVE DAYS!!!! You have been lucky with your farms in THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DELETED AS REGULARLY AS THAT!

There are players coming in to the game, players that will go inactive. MORE FARMS FOR RAIDERS!!!!! They in turn will be deleted. IT IS A CYCLE!!! IT GOES AROUND! Much like this.


To quote Joshanddrew...."The game has a circle of life.... People join, they quit and go inactive, they get farmed, they get deleted, they get replaced, and it repeats...."


EXACTLY!

So all that say we don't read things then immediately themselves, don't read things, lol. What do you want to hear? That the server is full to bursting with no room for newbs, just so that YOU have farms? How selfish is that??

There are, always will be, FARMS! Just not your own personal allowance of them? TOUGH!

evilbass wrote: speaking only from my perspective...
It seems more quiet...
and others, including players in my alliance feel the same..
I have started raiding again...
but on Massacre...., yes... different server...
cause there are inactives still to raid...
and you could get a decent haul if you worked at it...

I just wanna know which part of that statement would make people think you arnt talking about raiding inactives for yourself... because from every word you've put forth it looks and sounds like a lot of complaining that you cant find inactives in X... How could I arrive at different conclusion fro the words you spoke? like i said its a cycle its been ongoing for since the game first started and it'll keep happening, We cant have inactives just sitting there for people to raid when we need the space they occupy for new players that are constantly joining... I see no purpose in this entire post but to complain

Well... I for one am simply concerned about the lack of activity on the server... And I know evillbass is the same.

To josh: The concern is that activity on the server has decreased lately... This effects everyone. I know evillbass and know he rarely raids. I don't know why you assume his only motivation for his arguments must be that he is a big farmer! He's not! He just wants to see a more active server, with more medium players raiding and growing quickly, more fleets to hunt, etc. I do too! Activity has dropped off recently. As I said before, raiding is still perfectly decent in some places, but only because lots of players who used to raid actively have gone blue.

To mighty: There is plenty of space for noobs on the server, so that is not the issue. No one complains about the deletion of 0 point accounts anyway. Furthermore, v-moding long term inactives is not deletion and does nothing to free up space, but only clogs up the system with blue accounts that are no good to anyone. If there were enough new players who made it a decent ways before quitting, it's possible none of this would matter to anyone. If the game were more active, this procedure might be just fine and not discourage anyone from the game. Once again, the concerns is activity, and a down tick in activity makes the game less fun and interesting for everyone.