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Raid statistics ratio discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:42 pm
by Gozar
I have always understood the raid table shows combined total of you raid capture in metal, based on the trade rates or have I got this wrong.. so if you capture 100kk metal 100kk crystal and 100kk deut it would show on the raid table as 700kk.. Is this correct or is there another ratio..? because if this is correct I have found a bug..
I will await a reply before posting full details.. or if requested send direct to Zorg..
Re: Please explain raid table again..think I have found a bu
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:47 pm
by Zorg
The ratio is either 3:2:1 or 4:2:1, not sure right now.
Re: Please explain raid table again..think I have found a bu
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:19 am
by wulfzen
I'm pretty sure it is 4:2:1. At least, it is in Standard.
Re: Please explain raid table again..think I have found a bu
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:30 am
by Zorg
It is 3:2:1 (I checked Massacre,Standard,Xtreme - speed should be the same).
It is calculated as follows:
Total Raid Loot = Metal + 2 * Crystal + 3 * Deuterium
So what's the bug report Gozar?
Re: Please explain raid table again..think I have found a bu
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:44 pm
by wulfzen
If raid loot is 3:2:1, then why is the merchant trade 4:2:1?
Re: Please explain raid table again..think I have found a bu
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:05 pm
by Zorg
They are not related.
When we made statistics, we just used the 3:2:1 ratio for the stats. I also found it in some release notes in the forums.
Re: Please explain raid table again..think I have found a bu
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:20 pm
by lowfatspread
... you may think they are not related but a lot of the decisions as to the effectiveness of any raiding choice will be done on the basis of the relevant trade ratio's ....
it would seem "better"/"Fairer" to use the same weights...
Re: Please explain raid table again..think I have found a bu
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:07 am
by Zorg
I meant not related code-wise. Gameplay wise, it plays a big role I agree. Although that's just metrics (3:2:1 on raid statistics) not actual resources at hand.
Re: Please explain raid table again..think I have found a bu
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:39 am
by Gozar
Apologise then Zorg..there is no bug... I wrongly assumed it was the same as the trade rates.. my mistake...
although I think this would have been a better ratio.. and would keep things in proportion if it was the same as the trade ratio..
If you wish to move this post to discussion, it maybe a better place...to continue this topic..point of view.
Re: Raid statistics ratio discussion
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:06 pm
by SPY
trade rate is basically a flexible one.
according to the rule you may trade between the two specified ratios from 3:2:1 to 4:2:1
anything beyond or bellow that will be considered as a pushing or pulling incidence unless you are paying for a hit tip.
For raid points it is better to have a set ratio. and to have 3:2:1 is the moderate one as that is the most popular trade rate excersized among players. unless one is trading with merchant.
also 3:2:1 keeps the winning ratio at an average. with 4:2:1 the points will always favor metal. and as it turns out inactive raiding has a higher metal return from active player raids. and thus the points will get slanted that way. considering the norm of the two difference 3:2:1 is the best fit. that is just stating facts here.