**** you alfa, yes i started on a high ranked account but big deal, when i started this account didnt have 1 ship, not 1, and now i have one of the most powerful fleets in the game, i have as much right to express my opinion as anyone else, maybe when you are able to have the common sense that fleetsaving from a small moon to a debris field isnt playing well then you can come back and express your opinions, not that they are anything but trolling

like i said, the entire point of the game is to dominate it, if you dont like it dont play

i dont mean to insult or bash its just my opinion.

given high rank account is a huge VIP pass, doesnt matter if you started out with 0 ships. with that rank you have a high lvl mine that can pump out large amount of resource that can easily build thousand of ship just one day.. on top of that with vvv tag that number than become 20k just within a week while you dont have to worry anyone touching you.

compare a person whos working hard there whole life saving up money paying bill to start a successful business, while another person doesnt have to go through all that and given a restaurant with everything covered. and hire experience manager and accountant to run and do your paper work.

those who started 0 point spend alot of time upgrading raiding to get those mines up to produce more resource, to build fleet, upgrade techs. as thses lvl gets higher the cost of resource to upgrade from a lvl 35 metal to 36 takes 3 days of production to upgrade. whil we have to spend our resource all the time or FS the resource so we can save enough to upgrade to that lvl or someone will come along and attack you to take your resource. but you dont have to worry about any of that u got the mine u dotn have to worry on saving or FS resource cuz u dont need to upgrade anything. everyday the resource your mines produce, wat do you have to spend on? mines, tech, deff? its has already been built. like you said u started out with 0 fleet, so thats the only thing u can build since everything are given and the resource will cost so much that daily or weekly production wont even be enough to up grade one mine but enough to increase you ship size. vvv tag = VIP pass.

if a VVV recruit a player with 100-300k point with vvv watchign over him wat will this player build everyday with his resource? SHips everday he will build mroe and more ship because he know no one will hit him. while his ship becomes larger and larger he would be able to raid so much more at once and he would be getting so much resource to upgrade whatever he need and climbing the rank so much faster than anyone. a good example would be djmanj, good player, love crashing other, always improving. i remmeber his point was around 400k as soo as he join vvv his fleet size had increase dramatically.

blah.. blah.. blah.. blah.. blah... vvv this.. vvv that.. i hate vvv.. blah.. blah.. blah.. so.. it continues.. on and on and on... do you guyz ever stop and think for once???

all those people who have posted in this forum{except shandris} started playing this game before me.. and i have a bigger fleet than all the off you{except some vvv players of course}..

i did not start with level 40 mines.. nor was i given billions of res when i started.. i started from scratch.. just like the rest of zorg.. when i joined vvv i had 8k bs and gumps had crashed my fleet a couple of weeks prior to that.. there were dozens of players outside vvv who could have crashed me but they did not... why dint they???????? they did not have the nads to even probe me.. and even before i joined vvv i havent been crashed by anyone else but gumps.. why was he the only one??????? because he plays the game like it should be played.. aggressively.. its a war game for crying out loud.. why is the uoh section filled with only VVV crashes???? why cant people fron other alliances go crash other fleets??????? why??? they are too busy whining.. or they dont know how to play the game.. take a pick..

hasnt anyone thought why we were chosen to be part of vvv????? gumps was chasing me across the galaxies a week before i was recruited for stealing his deut and was trying to pop my moons.. you can go to the uoh section and read the topic.. most of you guyz said i was doomed.. my future in ZE was coming to an end.. did it happen???????

i never asked him to send me an invite to join vvv nor did i pay him a million bucks.. i aint his boss in RL and i aint married to his sister either.. if you have what it takes to survive in this game you will survive otherwise you will perish like the rest..

i dedicated a lot of time to play this game.. still do..thats is why i am where i am..


and the thing about vvv ganging up to hit someone just because one of us is crashed by them is crap.. we are more than capable of handling our own problems.. rance and me had our own personal war going.. his floater can still be seen next to my main.. i never requested the help of the rest of my alliance.. and he was producing{cheating ofcourse} mega fleets each day.. you just need nads.. i repeat nads..
@ghost are you saying i should stop impoving and remain stagnant.? How is my gaining points a bad thing.? Being in vvv dosent automatically give me points..
Most of my points have always been due to my fleet..
When i was crashed my points was down to 120k and twenty days later when i joined vvv it was 400k.. And its been almost two months since i joined vvv and now have 1.7mil points.. And remember gaining points when rebuilding you fleet is the hardest..You do the math and draw a growth chart.. Vvv or not i have always put an effort to improve.. Just dont come up with stupid theories just to justify something else..

ghost, i really dont care if you think me getting this account is unfair, why dont you come take it up with my in game.

honestly, no matter what happens people are still going to be whining, the only way you guys will shut up is if zorg decides to strip vvv of all its fleets, then you will just start up against the next set of top players. so why dont you just cut short the throwing tantrums around and go post a thread in game suggestions asking zorg to take away our fleets?


i still dont think people are understanding the point of the game so ill copy and paste it out of the in game help section to make it clear for you

Game Help
Welcome to Zorg Empire.
In this game you take up the role of a space Emperor.

You start, owning one planet. Here are some of the things you can do:
-Build mines and harvest resources
-Build a variety of different buildings which help your empire in a different way.
-Research new technologies
-Create Planet Defenses and defend against attacks from other players
-Create fleets to aid in defense or use them to attack other planets.
-Create a colony ship and inhabit new planets.
-Create strong alliances to help your empire stand the test of time
-Use espionage to get important information about your opponents.
-Create powerful fleets and rule the universe.


you see that bold line at the bottom? yeah, i thought so...

oh! and beleive it or not, you can get to the top without building fleets! yeah! its a crazy concept isnt it? you dont actually have to go through all this whining about getting your fleets smashed! wow! you see some of those other lines? you might not beleive me when i say this, but fleets are not the only thing in the game!

i can name a few, thatguyeric, rjsturgill, oh and kuddlez will be a top player soon if he keeps going the way he is because no one can or would want to hit him. rjsturgill even got crashed and is right behind me in points!

yeah its ok guys, you can kick yourselves.

Why do i see tons of posts saying that the top players need to be hindered? They are playing the game with the same capability as anyone can. They have done nothing wrong!!! In fact they did alot of right, that is why they are on top. People need to WORK to get up to the top. People just want to take the easy way out. "Lets stop attacks all together" or "Its not fair for the weaker players". These statements are just bogus. First of all, we dont attack everything we see on sight. I for one have passed a couple of smaller fleets to LET THE PLAYERS GROW. And second, most of the other fleeters out of VVV would hit the same targets we would. We just get to them first. Im betting that it would take 5 or 6 players outside of VVV to add up their playing time to amount to one VVV member. It takes TIME and EFFORTto amount to anything, NOT being lazy and asking for the mods to lower the higher players to their level.

theres nothing wrong with how you got your account in fact its prob the only way you would ever attain such a level i think its quite funny how the little vvv lambs come running with mouths open so wide its obvious their stretched so why dont you both crawl back under the big boys skirts and get back to what your good at lol

Everyone else has managed to stay civil except you. I think a week long ban is in order. ~Weresloth

Easy easy there folks..think some of us are getting too defensive when all the is beind said is merely compliments.Don't think anyone posting here so far isn't willing to work for something as much as the task at hand is overwhelming currently.And for the record i have donated just under $1100 into Zorg over the last year so i too want to make sure my investment is not just stripped away by any rash changes but will agree some protection is needed

alfa22omaga wrote:theres nothing wrong with how you got your account in fact its prob the only way you would ever attain such a level

says the one who fleetsaves to debris fields

and for the record, i have almost doubled this accounts points in the 2 months i have had it, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Enough. Stay on topic or this will get locked.

I'd say definately make moonshots harder and more risky, should eliminate a bunch of the problems here.