Why is this a lost cause? I am asking you simple questions. They are not difficult to answer. There is no trickery going on.

If you find that you cannot answer the questions because you fear that, after reading back through what you have said that you would find yourself in a situation where you are indeed likely to break the milking rules, then of course you would cease to answer. Understandable if you have now realised that you haven't thought through your idea.

But a lost cause? Yes, perhaps it is because you find that all is not to your liking and you have not gotten the answers that you thought you might.

We are trying to establish if what you originally posted would be a breach of the rules. Perhaps you are not making yourself clear? But rather than make it clear and show everyone what you propose is a good idea and above board, you seem to flinch away and say things like "I await moderation" or "It's a lost cause". Suggest that you are being accused of stuff. This rather than convince us all that you have a relevant, good idea.

Like I said in said in my post you just want do want you want without care for the rules most players here follow the rules and I am sure everyone ends up at one point with more resource of one and not the one they like or need deal with it like everyone else has too

As far as i know it's not a violation of any rule at all to trade res. Within or outside the alliance.

"*No player may knowingly send resources to any player unless it is done during a trade in accordance with the Trade Ratios posted on the forums (Trading).
*Once within a 24 hour period, any player may send the equivalent of 1 hour of production of each planet to any other player as long as they are in the same alliance."

These 2 sentences apply to different situations imho.
The 1st one applies to trades in the server(as long as they use the 4-2-1 ratio) and has nothing to do with the 2nd rule.
The 2nd one applies to players helping new players (in fact they can send to any player )IN THE SAME ALLIANCE as long as it's only once a day and only if the amount of res is not more than the equivalent of 1 hour of production of each planet.

So yes, the 2 rules apply to different circumstances ....

Mrsinister he wants a 5% cut on top the trade which. Is against. The rules

I don't know about that. I guess it's some kind of violation. I leave that up to Zorg to make that decision. But i think MightyOz is misinterpreting the 2 rules and mixing them up which is not right lol

The. Rules mean u can trade with anyone but at rates. Set here 3/2/1 so a I trade 100m metal for 50m crystal that it but if a alliance. Mate needs res I can send up to one hours production of all planets but once per a 24 hrs I can not send to someone. Outside my alliance moonshots are a trade too

-MrSinister- wrote:As far as i know it's not a violation of any rule at all to trade res. Within or outside the alliance.

"*No player may knowingly send resources to any player unless it is done during a trade in accordance with the Trade Ratios posted on the forums (Trading).
*Once within a 24 hour period, any player may send the equivalent of 1 hour of production of each planet to any other player as long as they are in the same alliance."

These 2 sentences apply to different situations imho.
The 1st one applies to trades in the server(as long as they use the 4-2-1 ratio) and has nothing to do with the 2nd rule.
The 2nd one applies to players helping new players (in fact they can send to any player )IN THE SAME ALLIANCE as long as it's only once a day and only if the amount of res is not more than the equivalent of 1 hour of production of each planet.

So yes, the 2 rules apply to different circumstances ....

I would interpret that rather differently.

Both sentences are under the one heading. "6. You must not MILK"

They are both under section 6, a relevant paragraphed heading in its own right.
Section 6, as a whole, describes what you can and can't do. You can't differentiate between the two, list them separately. They are both section 6.

It does not say you cannot trade, it just tells you what you are limited to in the way of trade.

Of course. I'm talking about MighytOz saying the 2 rules are intertwined , that is not the case..

*EDIT:
MightyOz ,they are separate rules but i think we need Zorg himself to state what is right and what is wrong in this discussion. So it's clear for everyone. I could be wrong but then again so could you. We need Zorg .

It's in the section Milking because some players might try to use trading as an excuse to milk . EG. Trading 400 mil Met to 10 mil Deut which is forbidden since that is not according to the official ratio. That is why it's in that section. It has nothing to do with the other rule but that's just my interpretation of the whole situation.Like i said already, i may be wrong. Get Zorg here lol

Oh I agree completely, I often slate the way the rules are worded. But in the absence of Doomrager actually clarifying things, us having to interpret things ourselves, I am looking at it, perhaps cynically for the worst case scenario.

But to have a separate section, a whole rule, "6". I would say that it is indeed intertwined. Otherwise why not make the two separate, Rules 6 and 7?