Well said Kristal. They seem to forget that there have always been bigger players, we were all small once, unless you have played since the games inception. Just keep your stuff safe, grow! THen turn it around and do the same back. Not exactly rocket science is it????

I like the challenge. War can be done within game rules too. I for one am not interested to participate in a ZE forum war, I am much more brutal than this and would war for something different that traditional wars of ZE.

Ill have to side with Gozar here. He is not the problem....

Play smart
never crash

the game is fine. with exceptions to it needing things like elite recs

Maybe you cant ever crash Gozar.....dont whine about the size difference......I restarted new account and catching up to many. How about jsut enjoy the game...never crash...and when you never crash you might find your self with fleet of threat to make it risky and costly for your enemies.

I realize my strategy is flawed....its only because of players like you who whine and say its impossible...everyone has a plan B then right? mine is just dont crash and enjoy game

I do not wish to participate in a forum war nor to add more logs to the pyre, but it is interesting the views people have.

Gozar, Sprog, medal, and T0RGARD are all in the same Alliance (duh) which is Azguard and they all have the highest points for fleet which means a lot in this War sim.

And yet Gozar and Sprog (Not sure if medal and TORGARD have) have all said this is a Wargame and yet they are doing the least amount of effort into creating more war, there would be more war if they all fought against one another instead of allying with one another and hitting other alliances which would have no chance to actually win and yet they persist in doing so, which is why it is understandable for people to be annoyed at the slight hypocrisy and arrogance that certain players have.

But I do see your point.

Whahahahahha bigfart has spoken

U cannot use the word HIDE if u hide into the blue every time. u cannot say force when u make un-profitless attack,

There have been more wars when Gozar, Torgard, Medal and myself haven't been in the same alliance if u check the war threads.........so what is your point exactly? I stated before that AZG went to war with ~A~ and we also went to war against other alliances that were bigger.....so it is not hypocrisy or arrogance that we were up for a war....especially seeing as there hasn't really been one in Extreme for a long time.....but hey, let things get stale...let's not war....let's all just get on and build, build, build!!!! Oh what fun!!!!! Hypocrisy? No! Arrogance? No! Sarcasm....maybe

whoisit wrote:U cannot use the word HIDE if u hide into the blue every time. u cannot say force when u make un-profitless attack,

Came here to say that.

Gozar is the last being who can say anything, it vmodes like 2 x week, active like 2 days then vmode.. it's a great strategy so no one can get the fleet but also noobish and cowardly.

Sprog wrote:There have been more wars when Gozar, Torgard, Medal and myself haven't been in the same alliance if u check the war threads.........so what is your point exactly?

I wasn't talking about the past, I am talking about the present and the future, which is not the past since you are all in the same Alliance.

Sprog wrote: I stated before that AZG went to war with ~A~ and we also went to war against other alliances that were bigger.....so it is not hypocrisy or arrogance that we were up for a war....especially seeing as there hasn't really been one in Extreme for a long time.....

As stated above in the past, recently you are more focused on Silent Killers specifically whoisit (By *you* I mean Azguard however I am not sure what the beef is nor is it my business) But for right now you are more focused on a medium Alliance with more small players then big and that is arrogance not hypocrisy which is not what I said it was.

Sprog wrote:but hey, let things get stale...let's not war....let's all just get on and build, build, build!!!! Oh what fun!!!!! Hypocrisy? No! Arrogance? No! Sarcasm....maybe

What I mean by Hypocrisy is that people emphasise more war and yet they only take the easy targets not the challenges that is in their face.

The tone some people write with (in my opinion) displays arrogance, however I can be wrong and if I am I apologize, but since it is easy to lie and make people look like idiots I won't exactly take some on their word.

P.s - For the truly honest folk if I HAVE offended you I am sorry.

wisely spoken Haliat

I am now going to sleep in my terribly arranged bed.

No offence taken Haliat.....even Alduin can't offend me despite countless attempts lol.....anyway, if AZGD can't war then why don't any of the alliances have a war? There has to be more to this game than raiding/building....and no point having a fleet if u don't use the damn thing surely?