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Best defense against fleets 100x your size

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:24 am
by Aeros
Recently had an issue with a buddy of mine getting hit with around 1,000 Battlecruisers. Never really planned for that outcome since I doubt the attack was even worth the Deuterium. But I digress. What is the best way to try and protect yourself from attacks like this? Please keep in mind we've been around for about 2 weeks, and have not even finished developing our first planets, let alone our colonies :wall:

Re: Best defense against fleets 100x your size

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:25 am
by schnitter
try fleetsaving, your lucky i cant flame you here.

Re: Best defense against fleets 100x your size

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:26 am
by Doomrager
Good luck if he had 1000 hes probably got 8000 I know because schnitter has a strong fleet and doesn't go for things not worth it. Your just crying and flaming because you lost your fleet.

Re: Best defense against fleets 100x your size

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:28 am
by SPY
build 5K LLs so that they dont hit u. with 2 shield domes. untill u have done it consider all of the other things a less priority.

EDIT:

Doomrager wrote:Good luck if he had 1000 hes probably got 8000 I know because schnitter has a strong fleet and doesn't go for things not worth it. Your just crying and flaming because you lost your fleet.
dude the guy simply asked for help. and a work around it. if u cannot provide please dont create a bad impression. i havent seen any flame on this thread. any flame is really unwarranted.

Re: Best defense against fleets 100x your size

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:36 am
by Aeros
Doomrager wrote:Good luck if he had 1000 hes probably got 8000 I know because schnitter has a strong fleet and doesn't go for things not worth it. Your just crying and flaming because you lost your fleet.
It was not me who was attacked, and I'm not crying. I'm trying to figure out how to play the game. Most games I've played online have safety's in place to prevent newer players being wiped out by the older players before they've even gained the ability to master the game. Since this is not the case here, I honestly need to know how to prevent this outcome. :P

Re: Best defense against fleets 100x your size

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:41 am
by Aeros
SPY wrote:build 5K LLs so that they dont hit u. with 2 shield domes. untill u have done it consider all of the other things a less priority.
Thanks, I'll get to that right away. I already had the shield domes and a couple hundred defense platforms, though I will admit my defenses were more geared to players my own size. I had no idea I would have to deal with people who had been playing for years already. Definitely calls for a change of plan.

Re: Best defense against fleets 100x your size

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:46 am
by Choke
Learn how to not be a profit. Keep the defense high enough to defend the sitting resources. Don't leave large amounts of resources or fleet down that would give someone an incentive to attack. Learning fleet saving techniques and resource saving techniques will greatly increase the chances of not being attacked. Here's a link that gives more in-depth information on fleet saving - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6797

Also, it's not a bad idea to run some simulations using your current weapon, shield, and armor tech levels along with your current defenses to get an idea of what kind of attacks you can withstand.

Re: Best defense against fleets 100x your size

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:54 am
by SPY
but that doesnt mean it will save any kind of resources. u need to learn profitability.

one way to learn it when u get raided. a raid is a sign that means ur defense is not adequate or u are leaving way too much on ur planets and u need to pull resources off ur planets more often. try to adjust to a place where u dont get raided any more.

so for starters raids on ur planets are actually good cause u know where ur weakest side lay.

Re: Best defense against fleets 100x your size

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:02 am
by Aeros
SPY wrote:but that doesnt mean it will save any kind of resources. u need to learn profitability.

one way to learn it when u get raided. a raid is a sign that means ur defense is not adequate or u are leaving way too much on ur planets and u need to pull resources off ur planets more often. try to adjust to a place where u dont get raided any more.

so for starters raids on ur planets are actually good cause u know where ur weakest side lay.
Well, what I've been doing has been to keep all my stuff centrally located and using it as it comes in. Fallen a bit behind lately though cuz I've been on vacation. I've also been spreading my planets around (1 per Galaxy). I had thought this would make it harder for someone to find all of them at once, though a recent spate of espionage actions on all of them has disproved that foolish notion. The dude who got raided though incidentally, I had just finished ticking off for having all his stuff spread around and too easy for anyone to raid. Had him pull everything back so he could get reorganized and that was when this raid happened.

so yeah, I guess the take away is spam defense structures for awhile.

*EDIT* I should also point out I never named any names in my OP. This was purely a question and answer thread, though some of the responses are probably a bit of a give away I'm afraid.

Re: Best defense against fleets 100x your size

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:41 pm
by dan1one
One question:
I didn't mad the calculation yet, but rely on L.lasers sounds pretty stupid. Since they are cheap you may build many, but they are also very weak and have a big rapid fire against them. can someone explain me why i have seen this tactic of many l.lasers as main def so many times? because it's sounds much more logical to build Gauss cannons and Plasma cannons in smaller quantities.