i debate is not simply discussion. I debate is a discussion based on two opposing points of view. If you so choose to utilize the $50 words for dummies, please understand that simply applying them without regard to knowledge of the subject leaves your viewpoint open for debate in itself. It was quite obvious that you, and others, interpreted his "if you have any questions about the bible" comment as an open invitation to attack or debate the validity. Please, Raiders, correct me if I am wrong, but MY interpretation of his intent was to get a better understanding of God's word so it can be understood and applied to our lived to be better connected and better followers of his Word. However, this post has turned into a "how can I rip the other guys ideas apart" as is most. If I am wrong about this, please let me know I am wrong Raiders.

Spankie wrote:i debate is not simply discussion. I debate is a discussion based on two opposing points of view. If you so choose to utilize the $50 words for dummies, please understand that simply applying them without regard to knowledge of the subject leaves your viewpoint open for debate in itself. It was quite obvious that you, and others, interpreted his "if you have any questions about the bible" comment as an open invitation to attack or debate the validity. Please, Raiders, correct me if I am wrong, but MY interpretation of his intent was to get a better understanding of God's word so it can be understood and applied to our lived to be better connected and better followers of his Word. However, this post has turned into a "how can I rip the other guys ideas apart" as is most. If I am wrong about this, please let me know I am wrong Raiders.

so first question.. why the personal attack on my use of vocabulary? I really don't get why you have to use personal attacks when this is not even your thread...

As for your statement on the knowledge of them.. feel free to explain to me when I used any of my words incorrectly. As I teach, I usually make any and all attempts and having my students use new words and attempt to allow themselves to be educated in the context of every day usage rather then use slang to communicate.

...as far as interpretation, I did not do any such thing. I don't interpret when it comes to text. The words say exactly what they say. No intent. No interpretation. He wanted to get a good talk going and I agreed and still do agree with him. I think that more dialogue SHOULD be had about everything. Last time I read through this subject Raiders made no attack on anyone and simply stated his viewpoint and how he believed. He simply wanted to talk to others about this subject.

Now, I am have to wonder why in Raider's thread someone, by the name of Spankie, is attacking others (personally) and their viewpoints... which I might add, mine own personal have never been stated so how you can even ATTEMPT to know what I agree to, think, or believe is quite unfathomable.

i admit i may have hijacked raiders topic with some posts sorry to raiders
i have opened a new topic where if anyone wants they can talk about any ideas they got

You seem to have a tendancy to use run-on sentences for starters. You dont understand debate, and you only extrapolate information that is concurrent with your side, rather than apply information in a factual manner. As for attacks...I would simply like this thread to get back to its original intent. Oh, btw, EVERYBODY interprets what they read. Your ideal that you do not is ludicris. The only way to reply to any given message is to INTERPRIT its meaning.

I have a question about the Bible. If Jesus came to save us from our sins, does the entire Old testament still apply to how we should live our lives? Jewish community, I believe, only consider the first 5 books as the entirety of religion. Do those values still apply?

Spankie wrote:You seem to have a tendancy to use run-on sentences for starters. You dont understand debate, and you only extrapolate information that is concurrent with your side, rather than apply information in a factual manner. As for attacks...I would simply like this thread to get back to its original intent. Oh, btw, EVERYBODY interprets what they read. Your ideal that you do not is ludicris. The only way to reply to any given message is to INTERPRIT its meaning.

I have a question about the Bible. If Jesus came to save us from our sins, does the entire Old testament still apply to how we should live our lives? Jewish community, I believe, only consider the first 5 books as the entirety of religion. Do those values still apply?

A. Actually through the use of prepositional phrases not a single one of my sentences are "run-on" but I can understand why it would be viewed that way. I will make an attempt to utilize them less often if that would be preferred.

B. I have not yet positioned myself as having a "side". Please elucidate to me where I have spoken my "side" of any part of this topic with respect to either the original poster's request for dialogue or to any viewpoint stated within this thread?

C. No I do not interpret. Each word used by every single person here has a definition. Those definitions are not malleable. They are finite or limited if you do not agree with the word finite. By pushing "intent" you are able to use the words for what you choose them to believe to represent. I make all attempts NOT to do this. I have practiced that way of thinking for over 20 years now since my first participation on the BBS communities I was fortunate enough to be a part of.

as for my question, i'm asking raiders, but thanks

Spankie wrote:as for my question, i'm asking raiders, but thanks

OK i edited my response.

Mistole... I wanted people to be able to talk about the way they feel. If the way you are going to say is jumping to conclusions is about what I want to do... then go ahead and leave. But, if you want to listen and READ. what i said... i want to get some talking about gospel i had in mind i found someone to pm and go back and forth and talk about Jesus and all that. I am sick of people bending this topic!

Spankie, for your question, it is the way things use to be. They had living sacrifices and that is wrong. The new Testemant is the way it should be.