Spankie wrote:TGE, faith is not a guess. God will only accept those that follow him. You do, or you do not. That does not mean that mistakes make you go to hell, but if you dont believe, what good does guessing do anyway? God did not say, only those with the biggest toys win, or only those with the highest education, or this or that, simply only those that believe. You cant even argue the point to those of us that believe. We do not accpect that he is not here no matter what may be said. Personally, sometimes I wonder if I have already f**ked up and this life is my hell. Sometimes I get friggin mad at God, but I still believe no matter what, even if things dont seem to go my way. I may not like it by how I feel, but I still believe.
And as i read back a bit, I notice lot of why this and why that, and God's imperfections. Here is my belief on Adam and eve and the "serpent". First, we all know that Satan was once God's highest Angel, and Satan was jealous of God and God kicked him out of heaven. If Heaven is perfect, how did Satan have jealousy as a trait? I believe that he allowed Satan to have that trait in the effort that mankind would be made and need to have a choice. Adam and Eve were given no sin, but given free will and used that free will to defy God and "Eat from the Tree of Knowledge". They created the first sin by choice, not God. And thus became the evolution of humanity. God simply wants us to follow his words. You do not have to, that is your choice. You can satanically twist and turn the word of God all you like, but in the end, the faith and folllowing of his words is all that matter.
So then I will go to hell? Seems pretty vain I would say. Who cares about doing the right thing, as long as you guess correctly, you're in? And it is a guess, give me proof, and then it becomes fact. I'm sorry, but with all the crap that has been distorted over the years, doing the right thing is the only thing I can trust in religion.